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Seems to be running under a new category for me,"Bookazine" rather than book or magazine,so maybe hedging their bets on how well it sells?

Does seem that those who were arguing Colin had been wrongly assesed are actually now confirming the point that he was around the same level as the riders suggested!!!!

It would seem if Billy Bales did ride there it wasn't during the period you mention.He done his national service during the 1950-1952 period,which is outside your time span https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Bales http://www.eveningnews24.co.uk/views/derek-james/norfolk-speedway-star-has-never-been-forgotten-1-996597

Might well be,but when assesing how many British finals each qualified for, age doesn't come into it for instance.Britsh finals seems a decent way to see how any rider especially at that time compared with his rivals of the day.And in 1970 as i mentioned Colin didn't qualify even if he was starting to score some points before Lokeren

One rider well known for that here in Germany.I am told by one or two experts that he looks brilliant out on his own,but once 3 other riders are next to him at the tapes he seems to go to pieces

Makes me wonder who is putting up the money.As you say,"mickey muse" and Polish fans don't normally go for that sort of thing in a big way however good the line-up.But if Tai wants to ride,there must be good money being payed.I'd also guess who ever runs The World Games will alo need paying to come in under their name....will watch all the news with interest

My link is also in english quite strange pronounciations of some names,i must say,but english

Might well But i guess the FIM said last time that national teams couldn't be entered?And that is why i attended that World Games meeting that was a right old mix of riders

Think Onesport would have a case for complaint if some invitational event was allowed to host a pairs event that was national teams under the umbrella of a World Games.All has to get approval from the FIM i guess

But you could also describe these as "teams from all over the world" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ED3fgjEkaOo

Link? I know it was put on another thread last year that speedway would be included,but not as to what form it would take.Last time it was a bit of a pick and mix of pairs,not national teams. Ok found this Just an "invitational meeting" that isn't part of the "official" World Games.So might be the same thing we had in London

Think your assesment was spot on Sid.He was at the level of a Genz,Monk,Trigg etc.He wasn't a Betts or Ashby or Hedge

Good work Sid.Out of interest how many did Brett or Rick France make?

I agree Sid,but as a Wimbledon fan i am a bit biased,so left it at that.I do honestly think Trevor was a bit better than Colin

Had a decent few years no doubt,but as i say i think by 1969 he was on the way down.You could though look at 1966 which was one of his best years.He did actually win a British quali at his home track of Hackney.He also done well finishing 2nd in his semi final and third in the British final at Wimbledon,which might be his best result of his career?He managed to get through the British-Scandinavian Final at Sheffield,but that was full of some quite poor Scandinavians(Olsen was a novice at this stage) and then finished rock bottom at Wembley in the European Final with a zero.I guess in 1970 he just didn't qualify for the British Final as it was before Lokeren? Maybe Wembley just wasn't his type of track?How many British Finals did he qualify for?Is Sid right and Colin was about the level of a Genz,Monk,Hedge etc?Seems fair to me.

Already done that. I would ask contributers to this thread not to just go over old ground and repeat things already posted

Has to be said that 1967 was a Wembley year,so all you had to do was do well in the British Final and you were in.Saying that,you obviously had to do well against some good riders and Colin did manage to beat Ivan Mauger in that final and also Anders Michanek in the world final.But he didn't even manage to win any British qualifying rounds.His best was 2nd at his home track Hackney.Some riders like Ronnie Genz and Charlie Monk won a couple of meetings.Probably a question of liking the West Ham track to an extent.Briggo also didn't win a quali,but won his semi final and the British final...

To put it into perspective though in 1969 as Hackney's no.1 he got an average of of 7.30 from 50 meetings.In a lot of other teams he would be the 3rd or 4th best rider.Guess by then he was on the way down after a fairly short career in which he did make 1 world final

Video of Heerenveen http://eisspeedway.blogspot.de/2017/04/52min-2017-fim-team-ice-speedway_12.html?spref=fb See Bauer was complaining a bit about the gap until Heerenveen.Guess he is going to be unhappier if the gap grows over the next 2 seasons

James Shanes has impressed,though i wasn't wrong about him as i didn't really notice him before this season apart from his Long Track/Grass stuff

Just wanted to use that as an example of how confusing it could all get.Understand your reasons though Think in general the whole thing is complicated and some longtrack meetings are held on grass.Even some of the official FIM meetings are held on various surfaces.Some of the youth competitions seem to be held both on grass and speedway tracks etc

Very true.Even the short track quad championship is held on a number of different tracks,both speedway and grass tracks.It would be very confusing to have some results on one thread and some on another http://www.shorttrack-online.de/?p=1513 In the first meeting there is mention of a 77 year old competitor from the UK,Paddy Thorne The next meeting is at Ludwigslust in a couple of weeks time.Might be tempted to take a look if the weather is good

Taking an educated guess,Vince Hurst is our "Vince",so congratulations "grandad"

Just using the example of the beautiful Hoover Building in London,i see that it has now been turned into a Tesco's https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoover_Building And of course there is the Battersea Power Station saga,where the fascade has been saved,but years and years of discussions on what the building will house https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battersea_Power_Station Also just came to me,Arsenal Stadium,which is of course far more architecturally beautiful has also been redeveloped whilst keeping the some of the exterior and some parts of the stadium.Other parts though were demolished and it is not used for sporting events any more!!! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenal_Stadium I am also no expert,but i think restoring an old stadium is far more expensive than building a new one.Plus you then have the added restrictions on what can and can't be done,once a building is listed

Would of course hope so.I am just wondering how this is supposed to pan out.Just listing the stadium doesn't save its sporting use does it?Can it still be turned into something else as long as the main part of the stadium is kept intact?