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Paul Hurry another whose career spans a fair time,started in 1991,but has had a lengthy period away due to injury etc,but is still going Quite possible with the suggested Jon Armstrong,but not found any stats David Mason made his debut for Eastbourne 'Eaglets'(probably junior racing though?) in 1993 so maybe proper debut in 1994,but no idea if he has been an ever present in a league since then..seems he didn't stay long anywhere though!!!

Yes,i saw the rankings on the South Africa thread and wondered if Ukraine was so dangerous,because one part was a war zone,whilst the rest was relatively normal

Not wanting to say that is nonsense,but of course it really is.You just have to look at some of the poor countries around the world run by dictators and there are people filling their pockets and bank balances up.Poland is in no way to be compared with such countries,so you can be sure there were always people with full bank accounts due to the massive corruption in the country.The country has major natural resources and that means someone gets rich.....But part of the reason is also that Poland couldn't really compete internationally with western countries at football and to do so costs much more money than directing it towards a fairly small sport like speedway.... Corruption in Poland has declined over time in the recent years. In international rankings it is below the world average but not insignificant. Within Poland, surveys of Polish citizens reveal that it is perceived to be a major problem. In the communist People's Republic of Poland, corruption was widespread, particularly by Polish United Workers Party officials (see nomenklatura).[15][16][17] Corruption under the communist regime was so pervasive that some scholars have referred to the system as "legalized corruption"

I vageuly remember reading about one football club that couldn't play in their home stadium and had to play home games in another city Yes,this report on Donetsk,who do play in the relative safety of Rivne http://mashable.com/2015/04/10/displaced-ukraine-football-club-shakhtar-donetsk/#JewTh3.2asql and the story of another club that had to do the same https://sports.vice.com/en_uk/article/pgnk3v/a-club-divided-a-club-united-zorya-luhansk-on-footballs-front-line

It is the problem with a GP on the other side of the world.In fact it is the problem with any international meeting.Argentina or elsewhere.Not many people will be willing to ride at the last minute when they have little or no chance,so you end up with riders who are already there.The same has happened often enough in Russia for instance for world or european competitions.I even remember someone who didn't bother to appear for a run-off to the next round of a competition as he knew it would be tooooo far to be worth it.

Taken a look on WWOS and it seems Andy missed the 1 season in 2002,if of course they have mot made a mistake.So 25 seasons.Not too bad and still equal with Moggo if Robs info is correct 1982..Belle Vue..4..10..8..3..4.40 1983..Belle Vue..50..149..137..30..4.48 1984..Belle Vue..50..187..302..37..7.25..2F..1P 1985..Belle Vue..38..156..267..29..7.59..4F 1986..Belle Vue..16..61..84..9..6.10 1987..Belle Vue..35..136..194..22..6.35..1F..1P 1988..Belle Vue..41..171..257..35..6.83..1F..1P 1989..Bradford..36..169..275..32..7.27..2P 1990..Bradford..27..117..191..34..7.69..3P 1991..Swindon..7..32..53..9..7.75 1992..Coventry..15..72..129.5..8..7.64 1993..Coventry..36..187..309..40..7.47..2F 1994..Coventry..22..103..151..15..6.45 1995..Coventry..38..182..276..28..6.68 1996..Bradford..43..217..371..50..7.76..2P 1997..Coventry..38..189..239..37..5.84 1998..Belle Vue..15..74..88..15..5.57 1998..Swindon..16..88..137..29..7.55..1P 1999..Belle Vue..27..127..227.5..35..8.27..3P 2000..Belle Vue..30..147..202..26..6.20 2001..Belle Vue..25..106..142..12..5.81 2002.....????????????? 2003..Oxford..21..92..132..16..6.43..1F 2004..Swindon..39..174..208..44..5.79 2005..Belle Vue..45..202..263..58..6.36 2006..Reading..27..108..120..29..5.52 2007..Reading..6..28..22..2..3.43 2007..Oxford..10..42..34..8..4.00 So an updated list Jimmy Squibb 30 (1946-1975) Neil Collins 29 (1978-2006) Les Collins 29(1975-2003) Ken McKinlay 28 (1948-1975) Malcolm Simmons 27 (1963-1987,1989,1993) Nigel Boocock 26 (1955-1980) Alan Mogridge 25 (1981-1997,1999-2006) Andy Smith 25 (1982-2001,2003-2007) As far as i can tell both Scott Nicholls and Stuart Robson are just outside the list,but still going and next year would be the 25 season for both,as it seems Stuart missed a year(because of injury?)

Ukraine is listed as more dangerous than South Africa and Pakistan,i think!!! Or is that really the Eastern side and Rivne is in the more safer area of the country!!!!

See talk of Austria entering a team in the Russian Super League!!!!

Nope,nothing to do with this thread.

Just want to remind folks,not long to go now!!!

Nothing to do with this thread.Doubt the guy even visited the museum in Holland

I didn:'t think there would be enough space to fit American Motorcycle Museum,The Netherlands,in the title and because once someone looked at the thread it would become obvious I didn't think it mattered much.Obviously I made a mistake in forgetting about our Pence plonker.Have no fear when I eventually get round to getting home I will duly change the title so none of your stuff fits!!!

Saw a photo on fb.Looks fantastic!!Fingers crossed it is a great success

Yes,I wasn't sure,but something in my memory was saying he held a Polish licence and the reason was probably because he wasn't riding in GB

Yeah,but has nothing to do with this thread about a museum in Holland.Well only some mental midget from Pence,who takes nearly 24 hours to do an experiment to find some crap out,that has been proved to him a hundred times before!!!

Güstrow are spending money doing the stadium up.New roof took linger than expected.I doubt they want to spend the money hosting a GP

Thanks for that.Sometimes difficult to sort through conflicting information.He seems to have been confused with Clem Beckett on a couple of sites.One site saying they thought he died in the Spanish Civil War.One seems to have the Clem Cort card with a bio about Beckett I was wondering how he managed to ride against LVP and then also take part in the Uruguay trip.Glad that is clear now

Also found this mis-spelt card

Exactly.Do people think club athletes or table tennis players live off earnings from their sport?These people might compete in leagues,but they are all low level leagues and not top professional ones and have to have a job to live from.Years ago riders in the second tier often had jobs to suplement their earnings.Now it seems riders in the third tier expect to be professionals living off earnings from the sport alone.Unrealistic!!!

Andy Smith is a possibility i think?1982-2007 equals Moggo,or did he miss a year or two?

Note the opening hours,because they will soon change over the winter http://www.ammh.nl/museum/opening-hours.php?pid=3

Looks a great museum with some fantastic old bikes that might well have been run on dirt tracks.And the best thing is,it is in Holland!!! Some of the bikes such as a 1914 and 1922 Harley and 1922 Indian Scout http://www.ammh.nl/museum/collectie.php?pid=52 And notice of a meet up next year

Clem Cort was one of those shooting stars that as far as i can tell started out mid way through the 1928 season and made enough of a mark to be included in the Ogden cigarette card collection. First appearance i can find is when he wonan Inter-Club race at Harringay on June 26th,had a few meetings before turning up at White City on 25th July and a month later was also riding at Wimbledon losing to the French star Charles Bellisent.But as pointed out on the back of the card he did win a couple of handicap meetings at both Wimbledon and White City and also the White City version of the News of the World belt At the end of the first season he was part of a group who travelled out to Zamalek,Egypt to race and it seems rip off the locals fixing races that in the country betting was allowed In 1929 i think he mainly raced in the Southern League for White City,although his name is also mentioned for the other two,Harringay and Wimbledon?He also rode for England against Wales at Cardiff and strangely i think the same year turned out for Australia alongside Vic Huxley,Max Grosskreutz and Hilary Buchanan at Preston against a Lancashire select During the winter it seems he had travelled to Australia and was riding at the Exhibition Stadium where it is reported in january 1930 he was beaten in a best of 3 match race by R.West Coming back for the 1930 season it seems he made what was to be a fatal change to Belle Vue.This year he also again turned out for England at Halifax against Australia Over the winter i have found a report he was back in Melbourne.It was announced in December 1930 that both Clem and Lionel davey had arrived from England in January 1931 it was announced Lionel van Praag will meet Clem Cort,the famous dirt track racer.Sadly not long after he travelled to Uruguay with some of the Belle Vue team on what turned out to be a disasterous tour both financially and fatally for Cort,who was travelling in a sidecar with Bob Harrison and Oliver Langton when they collided with an on coming car with no headlights and Cort was killed.A benefit meeting had to be held to pay for his burial and it mentions his wifes journey back to Australia!!! So maybe he had married an Australian woman(he met on a previous visit)? Any more info would be greatly appreciated Interesting report on the Zamalek trip http://www.guskuhn.net/GKuhn/Zamalek.htm And the Wimbledon version of the belt Clem Cort won at White City and seems the Wimbledon meeting was never held for him to attempt to win

I thought it brought back memories......found another thread with the same title.And no,not the other one started at the same time as this http://www.speedway-forum.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=39940&hl=longest

Interesting that the first link makes no mention of this 2001 season with Mildenhall.