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Well TWK is a bum

UK Martin in nonsense shocker!!!!

I have just popped over to speedway.org to see the news that the site has stopped.Or should i say the woman that runs it has gone into retirement after 20 years.One of the original sites and a great sources of info that was very easy to navigate I will miss it

Come on folks,what is a few hours wait when it is another 5 year plan to save the sport? And when you think about it,it is only another years wait until the next 5 year plan...... No laughing matter really,i know,but....

I remember going to the world final at Bradford in 1985.It was a Saturday in August

The details are a bit of a surprise,but the overall problem,i think has been known for years.I did mention some years back that it was the demans of BSI that were stopping a Russian GP.Of course Phil Rising denied any of this and said it was about the difficulty of getting riders and their equipment to Togliatti,despite the ice speedway riders from western Europe managing the same journey with similar equipment. But it is maybe not so exclusive to BSI.I know the promoters of the Berlin Ice Speedway GP made it known of their displeasure at FIM demands that seemed exclusive to their stadium and the same demands were not mentioned at other venues.That is,they said the reason they dropped out of hosting an FIM meeting for a season or two....

One subject i am terrible on is League Champions.1965 and 1973 are about my lot

Goodness gracious me.Have you had a knock on the head or something whilst line dancing???

No.You are always going on at Humphrey about editing posts to make them look different.And there you are caught red-handed.A big hypocrite You aren't very good at this debating thing.Should have stayed gone when you made the big announcement!!!!

Glad you agree how hypocritical you are.Good that we have it in b&w now.I thank you

That is important.You have to allow for the fact someones forefathers might have moved to a country.So it might be possible to find Danish people with -sson,but it doesn't mean that is a Danish spelling.Just like Hampel is a Germanic name or further back Glücklich. And Smolinski is a polish name

I didn't know the Fleetwood and even worse i guess, New Cross answers

Shows you up to be a total hypocrite as you constantly try to tell people what they should and shouldn't post.Voice of Reason is constantly getting told to tone down his language by you and even to b####r off to another country!!!

Outrageous that Sid calls someone a tool and someone who calls himself a Christian ignores that!!! Grow some man for gods sake

I'd agree Sometimes we can look back and ask 'if only he was more dedicated how good could he have been?'.We are possibly dealing with a couple who could fall into that category.Even Ronnie Moore could be as well.Olle is certainly a rider that it could be said never really reached his full potential,but then they were who they were.That is the life they chose and maybe Olle could have been much better than the records show,but i think you are right and he woud lose more often than not against Split

No doubt in my mind Ronnie at his peak,fully motivated would beat Split.Ronnie at his peak would beat most riders in anyones top 10 apart from the very very best

On my mobile i don't know how to save and post links,sorry

Just try searching for world finalist or oldest or chum Taylor or even bobbath.it is there from last year and even that was a new thread asking for updates....

I wouldn't know what is approved and not tbh.I don't really even notice advertising at the SGP's,just like i don't notice what engines each rider are using.Couldn't honestly tell you what number any rider has either..That sort of thing goes right by me,just like despite advertising and bits in the newspapers a lot of people don't evn know what speedway is or where it is held,even if they live near a track..... Off the top of my head i only know Monster and Dansk Metal do any sponsorship.Not even sure if Meridian Lifts are still going?But it does seem Red Bull,a major rival to Monster,are allowed to have advertising in the GPs etc.Which is an entirely different situation to the one both i and the article are talking about.No rival sponsorship is allowed

To an extent this is understandable and following footballs lead.Often have problems when a football player is seen wearing clothing or even boots from their clubs rivals and fines are handed out.Of course speedway is more complicated in that riders ride in a number of countries for a number of clubs with sponsors around Europe.Everybody wants an exclusive deal.When the German national team plays in a Bundesliga stadium all unauthorised advertising has to be blocked out and as adidas has a sponsorship deal,players aren't allowed to stroll up for official meetings in nike gear etc

You are talking about the team who finished runners-up though As it was that season Reading seemed to take a bit of time to warm up.Even Wimbledon won at their place early on!!!! But the likes of Oxford,Coventry,Swindon,Poole,Coatbridge and Cradley were a different matter.I'd sort of leave hackney out,as even though they finished way down Bengt Jansson was a rider at the time who could beat anyone on a good day and Barry Thomas was coming on well and beat Michanek at Hackney

Not saying anything against that.It was a season i enjoyed greatly,being my first full season of watching Wimbledon.But the fact is the likes of Mauger,Michanek and Olsen had a relatively easy time of it at Plough Lane.Collins was also super there.Even in 1974 we had Briggo back,but like you say he wasn't the Briggo of old.He was a point down on his Swindon 1972 average.It was probably 1975 when Tommy was back from the ban,that we had a genuine no.1 for the first time in a couple of seasons and i don't think we were the only team/track where the top riders had it fairly easy

It wasn't that i had to search through to find those examples.I looked at 1973,then picked out the first programme v Reading,then i looked at the first programme against Belle Vue,but unfortunately PC wasn't riding.Guess injured.Then looked at the first programme v Wolves and that is what i found

Give a couple of real examples at Wimbledon in 1973 Reading came for the Spring Gold Cup at the end of May.Michanek went through the meeting unbeaten even in the 2nd half.But in the meeting he came up against Ht1.Hedge and Harkins.Both on the way down from their best.Hedge still a Plough Lane hero,but had dropped off quite considerably from the 10+ man a few seasons earlier Ht5 Beat Tony Clarke and Reg Luckhurst.Must have been one of Clarkes last meetings before his custodial problem.Both as above really.On their way down and out Ht7 Mich comes in to replace Mick Bell and beats Tommy Jansson and Stapleton.Tommy was the one real star Michanek had to face and came on well,but at this stage wasn't really a true top no.1.Stapleton was steady without being spectacular.Not really in Anders class at all Ht11 same line up for the Dons as Ht7 and same result Ht13 Mich comes up against Tommy for the 3rd ht in a row who is partnered by Tony Carke End result Michanek with 15 pts,Tommy with 9.One heat win and 3 seconds behind Anders.4 of Anders heat times were under 62.0.The only rider to do that on this night On 27th September Wolves came for their BL meeting Ole got a 15 pt max and was also unbeaten in the second half! Ht1 Ole beat Jim McMillan and Reg Luckhurst.Now Jim was a good rider,but not in Olsens class,plus wasn't a Wimbledon rider.Only rode the track a couple of times a season and Reg was still the Reg of the Reading meeting Ht3 Ole came in for Jon Erskine who was missing and beat Harkins and Stapleton Ht5 Ole beat Harkins and Stapleton yet again Ht11 Ole beat Hedge and Pete Murray.Nobody would say they were a match for Olsen would they? Ht13Ole beat Hedge,who was excluded anyway and Stapleton Again all the fast winning times apart from George Hunter winning a heat under 63.0 were Ole's

Must say we had a wonderful time at Assen.I enjoyed the ice speedway and my girlfriend enjoyed the shops.I enjoyed meeting Ian in Groningen and my girlfriend enjoyed the shops But the weather was wonderful and some of the scenery like the little fortress town near the German border ,which we were lucky to visit when they had a little festival was great