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Who was the most talented Kelly,shawn,siggy or cowboy cook.How would you rate them?

It's the old speedway classic.He is doing it for our entertainment

Phil it may have escaped your notice,but the country where Milik and Vaculiks parents were born doesn't exist any more.Gone.Just like the country where presumably Pavlic and Zagars parents were born doesn't exist.This really is the silly season!!!!

Got to admit though Phil,it is a bit of a strange 'off the cuff remark'.I mean if you are going to list a few possible pairs,you could have said Smoli and Kai Huckenbuckle or Timo Lahti and the other Lahti bloke,but you chose to list a pair from two different countries.Now either you were on the bevvy at the time or there is a motive behind that post....... Time will indeed tell us what folks think of this competition.I don't give it more than 5 years before BSI want to off load the whole thing. Armando seems out of his depth.The decision to take the world U21 to Argentina,the decision to go for a world league and now this all show he doesn't have much grasp of world speedway reality.He will be remembered for these ..........

Yes,Phil.A remark you made.If it is just rubbish,then ok tell us and end of.But if it is something in the pipeline then the discussion that followed is valid.I think over the past couple of years you have hinted at something along these lines though.Correct me if I am wrong,but sure you have mentioned it is a shame that riders like Zagar and Vaculik aren't involved in the SWC.Milik wasn't really on the radar at the time Discussion forums are for discussing things.You put something on here and it is being discussed Exactly.Following Phils logic there are all sorts of combinations.France and Germany were once united.In fact France got their name from the Franken which is part of Bavaria.Wasn't the Netherlands under Spanish rule?Ok there are no Spaniards who could bolster the Dutch team,so forget that one

So,we could see a team made up of German and riders from the west of Poland,as they were once the same country?A mixed Russia and Ukraine team? Like I have said,we can see where this is heading.The FIM have a track record of this anyway having fielded a Team Europe once or twice and I think a Team Adria,maybe.So my suggestion of a Team America is in no way different This is exactly what I mean.Start buggering around with something and you end up with more problems than you started off with.Typical speedway.And all because they seem to want to try and steal Onesports thunder with their national and made up teams.......having made them a bit of a laughing stock,BSI seem intent on following suit!!!!

See Dmitri Khomisevitch is training in Kamensk as well.Charly Ebner jr is also in his way and Franky Zorn is setting off for Sweden to train

So you are peddling 'fake news' yourself??? Whatever.It might be more realistic,but once you start who knows where it will end,just to get a competitive team or to get a certain rider in?Who would we stick Pavlic in with if he was still going strong?Zagar I guess,from another country.Who would we stick some Ukranian in with?Or if there was a decent New Zealander?Or an Argentinian who hit the international scene?A US rider makes more sense than anyone else........ You have the advantage over me,not having seen what he has said,but it must be a 3 rider team because of the chance of injury and then only having 1 rider left,which further shws the divide between top and also ran countries.Poland and Denmark,Sweden,Russia will have some strength in depth whereas those teams that struggled to put a SWC squad together will also struggle to put 3 decent riders in this competition

It came from your post about Vaculik lining up alongside Milik.If that can happen,then anything is open and we know Armando has a liking for Argentina.Ok I guess if any are that good he will get them in the Italian pair though

No doubt Denmark or Sweden or maybe even Germany might want to host some sort of quali round where their team is more than likely going to get through if half the teams do and they are up against Finland,Italy,Hungary,who will obviously be far more competitive than they would be in the SWC Trouble is when you get a quali in Russia and half the teams don't turn up and so you have Russia 1,Russia 2 and Russia 3 alongside some made up Crovakia team and some Argentinian geezer alongside Greg to make an Americas team.After a few years surely Finland and Hungary will get fed up not qualifying and travelling long distances for the honour,just like they have with the SWC...... And to add to it,we the fans will have been well and truly p'd off by it all

I know they are only examples,but it shows the weakness of the argument. Dudek and Zmarzlik,yes they do look a good pair,but Holder could well carry on being off the boil.We don't know if Woffy will represent GB,so could be a weak pair,Antonio could be off the boil,so who knows,Laguta and Emil,ok i'll give you that.Then we really get some made up pairing of Milik and Vaculik or throw in Zagar all from different countries!!!! Will we get Hancock thrown in with someone from Europe? And then you see how poxy the idea becomes.It won't be strong enough,so do we get a Poland 'B' and 'C' and...........

Nope.Not for me.SWC was as others have said one of the highlights of the season.And although it is likely Poland would win for the next few years,it was only a while ago Sweden shocked us all and won against the odds You don't bugger around with one of the few things that works in speedway

We have snow expected everywhere in the next few days,even in the low areas.In the mountains we have had snow for a few weeks,but it is expected to be good for winter sports at the weekend Just seen that Tobi Busch is off to Russia,so he must have a 'safe' destination to train or he is going to be driving all that way for nothing

But it did get a bit out of hand. At Wimbledon we'd have the early spring tournament qualifying against local teams like Reading and Ipswich etc,then you'd have world quali and southern rider quali and then 4tt and of course ko cup and a test match plus 3 or 4 individual meetings and then the league......

Have seen pics and videos of riders training in Kamensk in the past few days,so it is happening.Eduard Krysov for instance Also saw a photo of Jouni Seppänens garden a few weeks ago and there was plenty of snow there

Can't say what it is like in the UK now,but over the last 5 years stats in Bundesliga football has boomed.Television analysis,newspaper reports and videotext are full of who made the most tackles,failed passes,shots on goal,ran the longest distance,the fastest,the most possession etc etc etc

Exactly.Come in with big money and want to shake the sport up.Start another league maybe and obviously his team and one or two others in Poland and a few others in neighbouring countries.Is this going to go down well or is he going to come up against a brick wall as often in speedway?????Are Polish speedway fans even interested in another league?Has he totally miss-judged a sport he has only had a passing interest before?He has enough money to lose at least

What I read was they wanted to carry on with the test matches they held this year.Think there were a number home and away against young Sweden Found two tests at Slangerup and Vojens v Sweden end of September/start of October

Interesting.......wonder what this Diamond League is about???? Someone else who comes in with a lot of noise and is gone in a few years time,i wonder?

Think is true that most fans aren't interested in much other than their teams meetings.I made a few mistakes when I got back into speedway worrying about the size of the crowd,so got to a meeting early only to find it was one man and a dog there. Denmark v Sweden @U21 in both Denmark and Sweden or a World U21 final etc.At the Danish test meeting it seemed like I was the only fan there and all the rest were family members!!!

Think after a Millwall game a lot of people ended up with a souvenir brick or two!!!

Hans Nielsen is looking at getting some early tests in for the young Danes,so maybe,hopefully one or two against a young Lions would be on the cards??A quick 5 test tour

Personally disagree.He had obviously lost his desire,so was far better to get out fit and healthy and move on,rather than go through the motions,drop out of the top riders category and maybe even risk a bad crash Maybe you would think that the desire might come back after a break,like maybe say,Ronnie Moore.But this never happened,so I think even Bjorn thought it was the best decision

So it came too late for PC even ignoring his tragic death

He could have done very well on the polish tracks,as he was very successful when he toured there with belle Vue.Not sure how many times the world final was held in Poland before 1968.But he was fairly poor when the final went to Sweden,so maybe he won as many as he was going to win