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I did.Nothing new apart from she was on Telly talking about the incident.Could have just been added to the previous thread on the subject,although it seemed to me he didn’t search to see if one existed

Well Rickardsson did take Anders Mellgren under his wing and how good was he?

I think the 'Charlie Webster fighting for her life' thread dealt with it all at the time

A couple of troublesome meetings and there was already the call to drop Fridays altogether and concentrate on Wednesday and sunday,and to move the sunday meeting to the evening.And then for the 14th August Wednesday meeting for the Golden Helmet it was beautiful summer weather and a record crowd turned out of between 20-25,000!!!! It should be mentioned at this point that in 1930 one journalist mentioned that the crowd figures for the first season were at times over-estimated,so we can't take them for gospel.For one record breaking meeting later on in 1929 there is a difference of 10,000 between on estimate and another.And of course speedway or shall we say dirt-track wasn't alone,not even at this stadium as the Schmeling-Neusel fight has estimates between 80 and 102,000....... What was recognisable by now was the improvement of the local riders after 6 weeks of racing,added to a week or more of training before the Stadium was opened to the public.It was harder to pick out a winner of the races between the german riders than it had been earlier in the season.This time Otto Heinrichs was in best form and Wunders new machine was giving him some trouble.Otto won the final with a great ride and was loudly cheered on his lap of honour.The result Heinrichs in a time of 79.4 followed by Plambeck,Wunder and Niss who was slowly losing his big lead:Niss 21 pts,Heinrichs 17,Wunder + Plambeck 9,Strachwitz who hadn't featured for a while on 5 etc.... In a danish-english scratch Niels Sorensen won a tough dual just ahead of Ginger Lees in a time 79.2 and Stewie St.George was 3rd.Then in the main handicap final,St.George couldn't take his place due to bike problems,so Franz Heck as the next best rider took his place.There had been a bit of controversy in one of the quali heats as the result was announced that Ginger Lees had won in a time of 1.51.2(for 4 laps) closely followed by Otto Heinrichs in 1.53,but the crowds were in uproar as Otto had a 2 second advantage which didn't seem to be taken into account,and so should have been the winner!!The 4 second advantage held by Heck was just enough to see him win the final despite another great rider from Lees,who finished 2nd ahead of Morian Hansen and Niels Sörensen.The first major prize for the man from Berlin After the great crowd on Wednesday it was anther disappointing Friday night crowd of around 6,000 who turned up to see the announced attack on the world mile record from Niels Sörensen and the match race challenge between local rider,Wunder and 2nd best Dane,Morian Hansen. Johannes was again in great form and beat Hansen in two straight heats,with times of 76.0 and 80.0,but it was Sorensen who really turned it on and though a number of stop watches couldn't show a time better than Arthur Jervis' world record,they could show that Sorensen had equalled it!!!Lees managed to win two finals on the night,the second after a hard battle finishing ahead of Franz Heck to take revenge for the Wednesday night defeat The 'sunday' meeting was moved to Monday,because Farmsen held a meeting at the 1,000m+ horse track and despite the 'off night' a decent crowd of 10,000 turned up,after around 15,000 had turned up at nearby Farmsen the day before.The meeting saw a number of falls,luckily only 1 had any serious effects on the riders.Otto Hansen had a spectacular fall,flying over his handlebars,but managed to get up and carry on riding to great applause. A couple of new faces had arrived.One Bullas,was known,like Heck before him from the Nürburgring.The other had only travelled to help his brother out and because Eric Langton had developed some nasty sores that hampered his riding,brother Oliver took his place.Bullas couldn't really get to grips with the new surface,but Oliver Langton was no newcomer to the sport and made a great debut in Lokstedt.He gave an improved Stewie St.George a tough fight before the New Zealander could win his heat.Ginger Lees had already got one up on the new record holder SörensenThe final saw a very close race which Lees won in a good time of 75.1 followed by St.George,Langton and Sorensen.In one of the later heats Stewie St.George fell and broke a rib,just as he was finding his form in Hamburg!!!For the second meeting in a row in the final final Lees beat Franz Heck who finished ahead of Langton.Sörensen and Morian Hansen

The next meeting on the 4th August saw the return to competitive action for Ginger Lees,who in his first heat was greeted with a warm round of applause.Sadly many of the 15 or so thousand that attended were disappointed that the advertised match race between their English hero and the new 'star',St.George didn't take place as Stewie hadn't turned up.Why,nobody knew as no explanation was given to the crowd!!!It was hoped that this wouldn't happen in the future,that a top rider was advertised and didn't show up.In the place of the advertised match race they held a best of 3 between two of the Hamburg riders,Fritz Niss and Otto Heinrichs,which wasn't without an added bit of controversy. The first heat was won by Niss who was closely followed by Heinrichs,but in the second heat it looked as though Niss was doing all he could,quite openly, to let Heinrichs win.In the decider Niss again won after a tough battle.The first sour notes were creeping in though after what was thought to be a relatively good start to the campaign for the promoters.Lees came second in both handicap finals.In the first eh couldn't quite make up the 8 second advantage held by Hans Bitsch and in the main final the 5 seconds that Arnold Stölting had over him The Wednesday evening meeting again saw the Golden Helmet battle.This time it was what might be called a 'Wunderful' meeting!! What was now being classed as the record attendance so far of 20,000 watched a real wonder.Johannes Wunder,the local rider from Lokstedt had up to now mainly been the first rider at the start and by the finish,the last.Now he had bought himself a new bike and things changed overnight.A Wunder!!!Johannes not only won the Golden Helmet final,but he did it in a national record of 79 seconds.Otto Heinrichs fell whilst in 2nd place,so leaving Stölting to come in behind Wunder followed by Fritz Niss.In their quali though it ended up a dead heat between Wunder and Heinrichs!!! The Golden Helmet points now were:Niss 20,Heinrichs 11,Wunder 7,Plambeck 6,Strachwitz 5,Stölting 3,König + Niemech 1 In the main handicap final of the night Stölting with a 4 second advantage looked like he was on his way to a win,when on the last bend his bike packed up,leaving Morian Hansen to win closely followed by Lees After the problems of the Wednesday meeting,the last thing that was needed was more problems.Unfortunately that was what they got.Stöltings bike packing up on the Wednesday was just the prelude to what happened on the Friday evening.Stewie St.George had finally arrived and the match race series against Lees could this time take place.Disappointingly for the crowd Lees won without problem in two heats.In the second St.George's bike packed up.......Heat after heat riders either dropped out due to bike problems or couldn't even start.Eventually the crowd got fed up with this and started to whistle their disapproval.In the handicap final Graf Strachwitz led for most of the race,but couldn't hold on to his lead and eventually finished a good 3rd,behind Lees and Morian Hansen

Ultimate professional and one of the very best our sport has seen RIP

https://goo.gl/images/aSnLvV The DKW bike ridden by Fritz Niemeck and Stewie St.George.Niemeck worked for the company as far as I know

Thanks for the confirmation on Heck.Did think Berlin must have been a trotting track as Motordrom A.G had only announced shortly before that they planned to build a track in Berlin,and even though they had built a 'track' in Hamburg in just 4 weeks,it took another couple to get the stadium finished,so no way had they managed it in such a short period.Also knew about tracks in Breslau,Munich and Cologne,but the others are new to me If I can jump a few months,well a season really forward then there is another mystery.....on his first appearance in Hamburg 'Spouts' Elder was billed as 'the worlds best rider' and a crowd somewhere between 35-45,000 turned up given from various sources.No real argument with that,but for the opening meeting of 1930 he was being billed as 'world champion'!!! Now how can this be?Even in the press it was questioned as to where this world championship was held and against which riders he won this title?He had lost the final of the 'Star Championship',but on Britmets website there is the tale of how he won the first world championship in Argentina.This though was at the end of the 1930 season........An early example of Promoters hype or was there an earlier world championship series in Argentina the season before?It should also be noted that at least for the 1929 meetings that Elder attended,the prices were raised!!!! http://www.speedwaychampions.com/resources/pdfs/1931 World Championship (4) 2013.pdf I also remember talking to post war Hamburg rider,Alfred Dannmeyer and he told me the story of riding in Denmark and the old Hamburg rider Alfred Rumrich was also there and was introduced to the crowd as 'world champion'.......so might have been lots of this going on

The next meeting on 28.07 featured the much awaited match race challenge between Lees and Jervis.Again a very good crowd of 16,000 turned up.In the first heat of the best of 3,Lees made a great start and after the first lap was 50m in front and held that lead in the next lap,but Jervis was making up ground and into the last turn was only about a metre behind Lees,but couldn't get past him.Lees was greeted with hearty applause from the crowd.The second heat had to be put back until after the break as Jervis had problems with his bike and had to repare the cylinder head.Before the next heat Jervis made a test lap to see that everything was ok,then showed he was happy.Jervis led from start to finish,but was chased all the way by Lees who was trying everything he could to get past,to no avail.The times for both heats showed how good the riders were going.75.6 for Lees and 76.0 for Jervis!! They met again before the scheduled decider in one of the finals over 3 laps.Lees had beaten Morian Hansen in his quali,Jervis on the other hand surprising finished behind Danish rider Walter Ryle.In the final Jervis upped his game and came out of the first bend in front,but Lees was not giving up and managed to pass Arthur on the home straight of the first lap.It was again looking like a super race,but then Lees lost control on the bend and had what looked like a very nasty crash and Jervis went on to win the final followed by Morian Hansen.It was announced that Lees was only shaken up and a little while later it was relayed to the crowd that he had recovered enough to have a cigarette!!! He couldn't come out for the match race decider though,and it was announced that they would hold a new one at the next meeting....... Unfortunately when the next meeting was held Ginger hadn't recovered from his fall and the new world record holder,Jervis was having his last meeting for while at least,as he was being recalled to England so they could parade him to the fans.The Golden Helmet had helped make Wednesdays the main race night and 15,000 turned up.After a couple of relatively low turnouts things were looking so good that Motordrom A.G were now planning to run 3 meetings a week!!!Wednesday-Friday and Sunday..... The heats saw the first appearance of a german rider from outside of Hamburg.Franz Heck from Berlin,who it was said had been training on the Berlin Dirt Track!!Taking a guess,but could this be the same Franz Heck who won the 1928 1000cc race at the Nürburgring?Strange that no metion of this is made if it is,but would be a big coincidence if there was another Franz Heck from Berlin racing motorbikes at the same time.This time Fritz Niss couldn't win,but only come 2nd to Otto Heinrichs and Graf Strachwitz finishing 3rd. Niss still had a good lead with 18pts,Heinrichs now on 11,Max Plambeck on 6,Graf Strachwitz on 5,Wunder 2.König and Niemeck on1 Jervis found it all a bit harder and struggled to find a way past Niels Sorensen in his heat,only managing due to a mistake by the Dane on the home straight otherwise Niels looked the likely winner.And then in the final Arthur couldn't quite make up the 4 second advantage that Kay Hansen held and so finished 2nd in front of the following Morian Hansen and Sorensen As a replacement for Jervis it was said that one of the Australian riders that brought the sport to Europe was coming to Hamburg.Steve St.George!!!! A top class rider would be arriving for the next meeting.Ignoring the fact they had his name and nationality wrong there turned out to be two problems.First he didn't turn up on time,but maybe even worse,when he did,it was found he wasn't as good as they had been led to believe!! The first Friday meeting saw a very poor crowd of around 3,000 turn up and the question was asked,'is it too much,3 meetings a week?' A reason for this might have been down to only using German and Danish riders,and not the expensive English.What it did have was a match between Germany and Denmark,at least of sorts.3 pairs from each country were graded into groups with the idea that evenly matched groups would bring very close races.So in the C group Germany had Plambeck and Wunder against Knudsen and Hoier for Denmark.Group B saw Arnold Stölting and Niemeck v Hans Bitsch and Otto Hansen.Then Group A saw Fritz Niss and Otto Heinrichs come up against Th.Clausen and the other Bitsch brother,Johannes!!! The C group at least didn't turn out quite so even as things were hoped as Einar Knudsen won all 3 followed by his partner Hoier and Max Plambeck finishing 3rd in each,but strangely it seems points were only awarded for the first 3 places,rather than 5-3-2-1,so Knudsen ended with a 15pt max,then Hoier on 9 and Plambeck with 6. In group B Germany held the upper hand winning each heat.Stölting the first two and then his partner Niemeck one and the points ended up with Stölting on 13,Niemeck with 8,H.Bitsch 5 and O.Hansen 4 The A group saw Golden Helmet leader Niss win the first heat,but in the next two he could only once finish among the points with a 3rd.Thorkild Clausen won the 2nd and 3rd heat and his partner Bitsch managed a second place in all 3 heats,so Clausen ended with 10,Bitsch with 9,Niss on 7 and Heinrichs with 4. This meeting did though see the return of Ginger Lees on track after his crash.During the break he rode 3 laps in a good time of 75.6 and looked as good as before his injury!!!

An action shot from the early weeks of the Lokstedt Dirt-Track showing 'the two best riders'.It states Ginger Lees is leading Niels Sorensen,but I wonder due to the styles(it looks like the rider on the left has his foot forward)if they have it the wrong way round? 10,000 turned up for the next meeting,but as a number of the German riders were missing they only held afinal for the Golden Helmet with no need for quali heats.Fritz Niss again won,but he was closely followed by Heinrichs with Max Plambeck 3rd and Johannes Wunder 4th So the totals at this time were Niss 10pts,Plambeck 4pts,Strachwitz + Heinrichs 3,Wunder and König 1.In the main handicap final of the night Plambeck,who had a 9 second lead on the top riders naturally was out in front for a while then the favourite Ginger Lees had bike problems and dropped out,leaving K:Hansen to win,closely followed by Niels Sorensen.Lees did manage to win the Handicap race for the English riders,beating the Wilcock brothers and Jack Wood,who all had a few seconds advantage It was said that the promoters sent out a telegram to England ....'Send someone to beat Lees' And so for the next sunday meeting Arthur Jervis from the Manchester White City team arrived in Hamburg.Unfortunately due to the bad weather a poor crowd of around 4,000 turned up to see this duel.In the first meet up Niels Sorensen came out in front of Lees and Jervis.Then there was a Denmark-England race in which Jervis beat Lees and the following DanesThen in the final handicap final Lees finished ahead of Jervis,Morian Hansen and Niels Sorensen,but all in all everyone seemed happy that Lees finally had someone of his class to race against The next Sunday was the day Ginger Lees,the rider who they had already named the 'uncrowned king of the Hamburg track' met his match in King Arthur!! The sunday meeting was staged in the evening for the first time.It was thought necessary to avoid a clash with Football and Boxing,but observers thought the racing under the floodlights was more exciting anyway.In the very first heat before a crowd of 16,000 Jervis made an attempt on the track record held by Lees.He went out storming ,and not only broke the track record but set a new world record for the mile of 73.8(73.4 was reported in the UK)In the highly awaited clash between Jervis and Lees,it was a bit of an anti-climax as Jervis was in a class of his own and Ginger Lees couldn't find a way past Niels Sorensen.Jervis finished almost 5 seconds ahead of Sorensen and the rest even further behind. Fritz Niss again won the final of the Golden Helmet ahead of Heinrichs and Plambeck and was now way out in front in the points total with 15.Heinrichs and Plambeck following with 6,Strachwitz 3,Wunder 2 and König with 1 In the handicap finalArthur and his brother Hubert were up against the Danes Einar and Kay Hansen,Walter Ryle and Niels Sorensen.Lees failed to qualify,having bike problems in his heat.Jervis amazed the crowd with his skilful riding just passing Einar Hansen who had a 4 second advantage, on the home straight

Only trouble is Nicki and Madsen won’t ride for one reason or the other,so Denmark are weakened.Might even be another who won’t ride.......

Yes,the same rider.It seems at this time and at least at Hamburg,that Niels Sorensen was the better rider,but Morian is probably better known.And possibly quite rightly so,at least for his exploits for the RAF in WW2 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morian_Hansen

And Heerenveen have a contract until 2022,so I heard and it seems Assen is history

Super Cyclone!!! Amazing today to look and see that from the opening meeting on Sunday 07.07 they had managed to run 28 meetings up to the 15th September!!!.Think it was 5 days later when they had their first rain-off of the season,although one meeting was postponed but ran the next day. Almost 10,000 turned up for the meeting in question which had a match race between Arthur Sherlock and Ned Kelly which it seems Sherlock won 2-1.In the first heat Kelly won a hard fought race by a bikes length,then in the 2nd Kelly fell and in the 3rd it was another neck and neck battle that Sherlock won on the last bend In the B-Class final H.Krons won in 80.3,from W.Schauer,Joe Balastrand and Helge Jensen In the A-Class Johannes Wunder won in 78.6 from J.Rasmussen,Arnold Moore and Arnold Stölting In the Grosse Vorgaberennen over 4 laps Winks Rice won in 1.52.9,from Arnold Stölting,Kay Andersen and Th.Clausen Ginger Lees doesn't seem to have been at this meeting and in the report for the meeting on the 22.09 it states 'our Ginger is still in Copenhagen!!'Jst 3 days later for the Wednesday evening meeting (18.09.1929)turned!

Fritz Niss from Hamburg,although in this illustration he doesn't seem to be riding Lees-esque with his foot forward!!

http://www.podium.tv/nl/live

Is there a track or even a club in St.Petersburg?

Well I can at least come to the German Dirt Track Championship later...... It is also interesting about the track being built by United Speedway Ltd,as the publicity blurb and the press only mention Motordrom A.G and one or two of those in charge.A Herr Lütgert and a Dr.Götte and I think another Count,not Strachwitz was also said to be in charge.No Danes or English,but maybe these were just the managers on the ground? This would appear to be the President of Motordrom A.G https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikolaus_zu_Dohna-Schlodien https://www.deutsche-digitale-bibliothek.de/item/CRUBGLBEMCTNU2VHOL2DW3QNWQDHYG3Z Anyway,to carry on the story......The next meeting was again on a sunday afternoon and this time only 6-7,000 came to see 'Ginger' Lees and the rest.In the press it stated that one of the reasons for this might be the cost of 1.5 Reichsmark for the cheapest tickets,which was thought to be expensive when travel and food costs were added.And I guess especially so when at this time they were hosting 2 meetings a week.Plans were to add another meeting to the two!!! The first heat was an attempt by Ginger Lees to break his track record.He done the warm up lap and went flying through the start and was going like the clappers when he lost control and flew over the bike,the to the shock of the crowd,his bike straightened up and weaved 30m over the track and suddenly turned and headed for the fence and after the impact lay on the track still running as the crowd ducked for cover.Lees managed to get to his bike and turn the engine off,before the 5 track staff got there. Fritz Niss stepped in whilst Lees had time to check things over and recover.He went out to attempt to break his national record and it was noted was riding in a Lees style with his left leg forward.I'd guess Lees and some of the other had spent some time training and even giving tips to the locals.He done the 3 laps in 79 seconds,which took nearly 6 seconds off of his previous best!! Then Lees came out and took the track record down to 75 seconds.In the final of the day Lees just lost out by 2 meters finishing behind K.Hansen who had a 4 second advantage over 'Ginger'.George Corney and Arthur Wilcock finished 3rd and 4th

You come in and give the ending away when I am just starting the story!!!

The second meeting was just a few days later on Wednesday evening where another 16,000 turned up to see a Dirt Track meeting under floodlights.The promoter had taken on board some of the criticisms from the first meeting.This time all races were flying starts,the main handicap race was over 4 laps instead of 3,to give those riders starting last a chance to make their way through the crowd, and the racing was much more exciting than the first.It was felt that an average crowd of around 8,000 should be achievable once the novelty wore off. From a press report at the time a party of riders from Manchester were leaving on the 02.07 for Hamburg including brothers Arthur and Cyril.Wilcock,'Ginger' Lees,George Corney,Rex Kirby and Rex Trickett.I think all,as well as most riders that followed during the season came from the northern,English Dirt Track League and stayed for a few meetings.I guess they all had some practice on the new track before the first meeting.A couple of the german riders, Stölting for one,had a fall and ended up missing the first meeting due to injury from the session.It was also noted that a few of the german riders were known to motorcycle racing fans,so I guess they were racing at the trotting tracks like Farmsen in Hamburg In his first heat Lees broke his own track record and took it down to 76,6 and the German record was taken by Fritz Niss,knocking a second off of the previous record.Count Strachwitz once again showed he was no push over.In one of his heats he was leading the English riders,Cyril Wilcock and Jack Wood for quite a while until he injured his hand and was praised for his courage to even finish the race.The second meeting also saw the start of a 'Golden Helmet' competition for the german riders,which would be run as a series over the season,collecting points along the way to the title.5 points for a win......In the first final Fritz Niss won the 5pts beating Count Strachwitz,who it was said rode far too wide and made it easy for Niss The highlight was the main handicap final where 'Ginger' Lees was giving away seconds to his rivals.Morian Hansen and George Corney had 2 seconds,A.Jackson,A + O.Hansen(in the first meetings there were 4!!! Hansens riding,which caused a bit of confusion)received 4 seconds.Lees passed one after the other to finish 100m ahead of the next rider after 4 laps In the British press it was stated the track is extremely wide and the start line is just before the first bend,so the inside gate has a big advantage and the racing is boring,but from the german press reports this really doesn't seem to be the case.They are full of praise for the organisation and after the first not so great meeting,for the racing as well

Must have been some money around for that sort of prize!! It was reported that Eric Langton’s brother Oliver,who made the trip to spanner for Eric,but stepped in when his brother had to pull out sick,sent home 50 pounds in prize money(around 3000 today)after a week in Hamburg.Just wonder what Lees was earning there.A year later Arthur Jervis was suspended for staying in Hamburg too long,so I guess it was worth it

Wasn't that the point you were making or were you only talking about Birmingham,the Midlands or the south of Scotland?

Funny being in this section because wasn't one of the press people at BSI a woman?Nicola something... And also in this section have you seen the news that Team GB have been taken over by a male/female duo? Then there was a Polish female promoter?Marta something.... Brokstedt have had a female team manager for a decade or more in the Bundesliga And the press boss or one of them at Russian ice speedway team,Ufa was/is also a woman,although I think she has just taken a job as a press officer for the Russian Football World Cup

In what seems like an incredibly short amount of time(just 6 weeks!!!)a 50,000 capacity stadium(track length 560m!!!) was built in Hamburg in 1929.A few years later an estimated 80-102,000 went to the stadium to see a boxing fight between German heavyweights Max Schmeling and Walter Neusel!!! It is interesting looking at the reports at the time to see the development of the Dirt Track and some of the criticisms that seem even today relevant.The report was talking about a crowd of around 20,000 for the opening night,although later it seems a crowd of 17,000 was accepted.Describing the opening night of a new sport it mentions the names of the riders,the winner of each race and the times were announced over the loudspeakers.The whole evening was very professional and 18 heats plus a 10 minute break was finished within 3 hours!!The view from all parts of the stadium are equally good,but the interesting part of the race occurs in the bends.Strangely thee parts of the track were less full than the straights,but in the next meetings that should change.The heats were over an English mile and this was one of the problems with Dirt track racing,as it made the races less exciting as usually a good start or a mistake meant the heats were won.Only once did someone(in this case 'Ginger' Lees)manage to overtake and win a heat One part of the meeting was particularly questionable and that was the starts.The heats had both standing and flying starts and it was the flying starts that caused a bit of head scratching amongst the crowd.They were told that all 4 riders should cross the start line together,but couldn't understand why the race had to be re-started when 1 rider was behind the other 3.It seemed it was his fault and to his disadvantage and wondered why the delays and new starts........and why no explanataion was given for this!! Ginger Lees won the main race and also set the track record of 78,4 seconds.A German record of 85,3 was set by Count Strachwitz!!! Less than a week later and after the first meeting under floodlights the promoters were so happy they were talking about building a track in Berlin in the same amount of time!!!!