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And this one will also help http://www.speedwayresearcher.org.uk/teambyteam.html great website and good topic

Don’t think Workington is in there yet,but this might be a good website to start the count? http://www.defunctspeedway.co.uk/

I apologise for expanding outside the thread title,but I went to some good Wimbledon v Belle Vue Meetings in the 70s

Think you have missed the point.The question is about how long it takes a mod to control a newbie’s post and make it visible Then again I doubt if anyone apart from a mod can answer that apart from i’d imagine it depends on how much they have on their plate at any particular time

It all seemed to spring from nowhere in Germany.Was like in Finland I guess used as an added attraction.Then speedway fans basically said if there was going to be extra heats then make them speedway heats.Develope youngsters etc,not give a competing sport a chance.Then it disappeared as quickly as it came.It exists somewhere I guess,but within its own little world,like stock cars or even speedway.

Was wondering,due to the passage of time anything new had been found about Mason? What is he doing now and did he laugh when somebody confused him with a sponsor? If nothing else,the thread deserves another look

I think the situation was Speedway could have continued,but the promoter refused the deal on offer and no nobody stepped up to take his place

I tend to agree with your opinion on this.The answer would appear to be also a lack of a promoter willing to pay what was needed to keep the speedway running

23rd of October and the next meeting at Lokstedt.It would go down as the last big night of the season.It would go down as the last night before the world changed with the Wall Street crash on black Thursday.Germany,already unstable would see an acceleration into mass unemployment and the rise of the Nazis The evening saw the climax of the Grand Prix.In the first of the quali heats Burrill had bike problems while in a qualifying spot and so Arnold Stölting passed to join Len Myerscough in the final.Stölting ended as the oly german in the final as Bill Kellner made a quick start,thought the heat would be restarted and slowed,just as everyone else got going and left him for dead...In the final Joe Abbott had problems,so yet again the Lees-Abbott clash failed to materialise.So,it was only Myerscough who could mount any sort of challenge to Ginger,but it wasn't to be and the most consistent,probably most ppular rider of the season won out in the end and was greeted t a loud round of applause on his lap of honour!! There was also a 3 team international Germany v England v Denmark with 6 rider heats and a 7-5-4-3-2-1 scoring system Ht1:Sörensen,Andersen,Niss,Strachwitz,Ryle,Drews(fell) Ht2:Abbott,Sörensen,Chiswell,Rye,Andersen,Ryle Ht3:Abbott,Chiswell,Stölting,Niss,Rye,Strachwitz Stölting came in as reserve for the injured Drews in Ht 3 and so it ended England 28(Abbott 14,Chiswell 9,Rye 5) Denmark 22(Sorensen 12,Andersen 7,Ryle 3) Germany 15 (Niss 7,Strachwitz 4,Stölting 4,Drews 0) The final of the Golden Helmet had an unusual look to it.Fritz Niss didn't make it through his heat.Johannes Wunder was out injured and Heinrichs and Heck were totally out of form and so it ended up a close hard race between Drews and Stölting,which Drews won,Werner Schauer came in 3rd as Strachwitz could only poodle round as his bike was playing up. The usual Handicap final was yet again won by Ginger Lees.In his quali heat he could make up the handicap of 1 second on Len Myerscough,but got the better of him when it counted.The ever awaited clash between Lees and Abbott was again an anti-climax as Abbotts bike as ever had problems.In the press it was questioned as to how every time Abbott was supposed to clash with Ginger his bike played up.In every other heat such as the evenings International 3 tt,he rode without trouble.....

I think part of it was also Bauer snr said Luca went to Russia for the previous Euro championships when nobody else wanted to and so should be looked upon favourably . The rift though grew a few years back at the Team final when he slagged off his fellow Germans and said something along the lines of,i would be better riding on my own!!

And you’re the most disliked old woman!!

Practice in Finland cancelled

Just saying it as I see it.Oh and did you get someone to write that for you Sid?It makes sense for once!!!

But everything is seen from a British perspective.We would have a task to get one competitive team on the basis people seem to be suggesting.Then we have the trouble of the Polish team having to change their line-up from the Polish league line-up and we know polish fans aren’t like Brits.They don’t like Mickey Mouse stuff and they don’t like made up things.Mot sure the Swedes would follow a made up team either This is the problem with speedway.We end up trying to fit a square peg into a round hole

Bored now I have read a couple of your posts!!!Some things don’t change with the years

Well we had to suffer years of her and some guy chatting away and using the Poole threads like they were a private chat.Ine of the reasons the threads became unreadable,boring and probably double the amount of posts they get now.Add Starman to the equation and that is why I have hardly looked in for years now

Why would some ‘wanderers’ team racing against city teams bring credibility to the sport?Sounds like the half baked idea of having London play in the European Cup,which was quickly dropped after a couple of seasons..,,

Also been on here a while

Oh maybe there was a piece about the new development in the latest Sanomat?I should learn to read it?

Yes,but isn’t it one of those 4tt leagues

What you have to remember in most of these examples is a lot of those teams don’t really have a home league of any consequence.Latvia,Hungary,Estonia and even Finland.Wasn’t one of the problems also with the Baltic thing,one team didn’t even have a track When you are talking about two countries with a multi league set up it is a different kettle of fish

I thought Kurtz had a full season in Denmark in 2013 riding for Holsted while staying with Rasmus Jensen & family.Though I do remember being at one of his early meetings where he was injured http://www.speedwaygp.com/news/article/4705/

Must be traumatic for a father when the son has a bad crash.Tbh I don’t really know much at all about Dirk.Was he a great young talent and when did he crash and what injuries did he receive?

The 16th October saw another big crowd(est 20,000!!,double the previous meeting) turn up and were rewarded with a super meeting.The Golden Helmet races also doubled as qualifiers for German entry into a Grand Prix competition.Drews thrilled the crowd in the final with a last gasp sweep past Fritz Niss on the final bend to take the 5 points,with Kellner 3rd and Heck falling.The Danish qualifier for the Grand Prix was won by Niels Sorensen followed by Andersen and Ryle.With the Preston team staying in Hamburg there were two English GP qualifiers.The first was of course yet another win for Ginger with a decent time of 76.7 ahead of Claude Rye and ham Burrill.Surprisingly Joe Abbott was beaten in the 2nd quali by Len Myerscough and Frank Chiswell 3rd.A couple of handicap races saw Lees again win,but two of his main rivals had trouble.Myerscough's bike played up and Frank Chiswell had a poor start.The 2nd saw Abbott finish a poor 4th as he couldn't come to terms with his handicap.The heat was won by the Dane,Andersen in front of Jimmy Stevens and Herbert Drews.The main handicap final was also somewhat a let down as the awaited Lees-Abbott clash didn't happen because Ginger failed to qualify.Werner Schauer won with a super race in front of Abbott,Sörensen,Werner,Plambeck and Andersen The next meeting on the 20th saw another great crowd turn up in Lokstedt.It is estimated between 20-25,000 turned up,and this after 20,000 had attended a Germany v Finland football match nearby.Busses were on hand to shuttle any football fans that wanted to attend the Dirt Track meeting.The next round of qualification heats for the GP were this time mixed,rather than national.In the first Joe Abbott won and qualified for the next round fairly confortably.One reason was Frank Chiswell had to sit the race out with an injury.The germans Stölting and Heck also qualified.The 2nd heat saw Lees win with ease,but a big surprise was Bill Kellners 2nd place ahead of such riders as Claude Rye and Fritz Niss.who went out of the competition as Andersen managed to finish 3rd.The last heat saw a thrilling race between Myerscough and Burrill racing shoulder to shoulder.Adding to the thrills was a fall by Count Strachwitz when in the lead and also Drews falling which meant Niels Sorensen made the vital 3rd place Again the Hamburger Rad heat also had Kellner as the surprise winner over 4 laps,this time.The more fancied riders had problems.Heinrichs fell on the 1st la and then Hecks bike played up Fritz Niss finished way behind Kellner.Johannes Wunder had been away in Denmark for the last few meetings.In a consolation race for those who hadn't qualified for the next GP round,Herbert Drews showed his improving form and won ahead of decent English riders like Jack Chiswell and Claude Rye.The clash between Lees and Abbott in the main handicap final failed to materialise yet again.This time Joe didn't get through his round,but the race turned out to be a thrilling battle between Ginger and Max Plambeck.One overtaking the other,but the inevitable happened and Lees crossed the finish line ahead.Jack Chiswell 3rd and Niss 4th

You will have to see who doesn’t qualify first