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Sometimes I see threads from 5 years ago and had totally forgotten I had posted on them!!!

There was also an interesting announcement in the 28.11.1928 issue of Motor cycling which stated 'A Manchester company,of which Fred Fearnley is a director,will give Germany its 1st dirt track in March 1929.It will be at Preußens football ground in Berlin.It is rumoured Clem Beckett and Ron Johnson will be riding there Guess nothing ever came of this

Never ever heard of Tommy Morley!!!Then again I don’t think I went to a single meeting in 1979.

I am measured.I always think I make a point,rather than some irrational abuse.And if I have something to say to one of your posts,I do and will in future,don’t worry about that You do seem to have jumped in without thinking again,though,as gustix seems to have agreed with the point made by Grachan

Why should I pick on you Sidney the Robin?Nobody is bullying anyone as far as I can see.As I have posted,Grachan years ago backed up Falcace’s point with a fact

The fact is Grachan proved the point to be true.He was a fan who wrote in and they used his pieces and it seems without accreditation they made him the Reading correspondent!!!Fact

Tbh John,nobody can damage your reputation quite as much as you do,yourself You have started to make a few decent posts.Surely you can see the difference and can also see the damage you have done to yourself over the years and still do at times

Click on 71 & 72 http://www.internationalspeedway.co.uk/wtc1.htm

Denmark actually beat Norway in both the 1971 & 1972 Scandinavian quali for the WTC

Remember seeing this and thinking what an amazing guy he is to control a bike on ice,which I imagine to be no easy task with those ruts!!!

Did it need a tweet from her to show you that?

Same here Steve

No.I received a mail about the early days some years ago and that was just about the last piece of info.I hadn’t even searched any further on that until yesterday,as I was really concentrating on Hamburg

Thanks.Later in the thread I might get round to the time Fay Taylour rode at Lokstedt.And in my next post there is a visit from a rider who had a motorbike shop in Stockwell

I am another who was at White City to see Bruce and Mike Bast

As stated in the January 6 post,the Preston team came over to race for a short period after their UK season was over

There was also a report in Motor Cycling of 23.04.1930 that a track was being built inside the banked cycling track(because of this, there wouldn't be a safety fence!!) in Dudweiler,Saarbrucken!! Now this is an old banked cycling track,but in the article it states it was built in 1934!!So maybe there was a previous stadium there???? https://www.saarbruecker-zeitung.de/sport/sz-sport/neben-unkraut-spriesst-auch-wieder-ein-radsport-traum_aid-5375730 a good photo here http://joergaumann.blogspot.com/2017/09/zum-schanzenberg-und-mit-umwegen-zuruck.html

A bit of info on the Cologne Dirt track.Nobby Ley,Gus Platts Maurice Bradshaw and J.H.Barber were riding,but the meeting was cut short due to bad light.The next meeting on 01.12.1929 saw the same riders,plus Bluey Wilkinson in attendance.According to the Auto Magazine the track closed(for the season)within a week due to frost!! Mentions the speedway(Dirt track) here,which was basically a bike stadium that was then later used for motorsports and the Dirt Track was built inside the concrete bike track https://www.kuladig.de/Objektansicht.aspx?extid=O-120321-20150330-3 or here under the Riehler Radrennbahn section https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radstadion_Köln

Bavarian probably knows more than me.Think he did put something on the Lokstedt topic.As far as I know in the early days after Hamburg in fact on the day of the zeal Street crash,Spencer Stratton opened a track in Cologne 24.11.1929.There was also a track in Breslau(Wroclaw)which at the time was part of Germany.On 23.031930 a track in Berlin opened.Think the first opening meeting was rained off and the top riders weren’t there for the re-arranged meeting,which mainly featured the Germans who rode at Hamburg in 1929 plus Nobby Key and ‘Platts’ from England and a couple of new Germans.The most successful being E.Ziemer Should be noted that tracks were running earlier,but these were 1,000m+ like Hamburg Farmsen as early as 1924 and some of these riders ended up at Lokstedt on the Dirt Track

Good spot.Could this then be the father (who ran the mx shop)? And his son was the person who was sought in the title,I wonder? Mason Weir instead of Wear.Now that might have stopped all the confusion!! By the way,is there any evidence a sponsor has been listed in a Programme rather than a rider?

Don’t forget Harley are at war with a certain Donald Trump.Well more like Trump is at war with them and sales have fallen dramatically since he took aim at them https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwj6q8LCjfDfAhWEJlAKHbKfClEQzPwBegQIARAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F2018%2F10%2F24%2Fbusiness%2Fdealbook%2Fharley-davidson-trump-sales.html&psig=AOvVaw0IQZu_6Ie6Y2hQMRI8zoCj&ust=1547652645265472

Yes,quite interesting how the FIM championship in Europe has gone from 5 or so rounds down to only one round last year!!!What does that tell us?Is European Flat Track in the doldrums like the US?

Guess it is like comparing Polish League speedway with British League speedway?The UK still has some way to go to get anywhere near Poland,but maybe we can be positive and hope one day it will?I doubt European Flat Track will ever reach US level.Just not the market imo In fact I think we have been here before,but looking at this article it admits Flat Track in the US hit the doldrums in the 1990s and is hoping to get a boost(2017) https://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/motorcycles/a28103/flat-track-motorcycle-racing/

The sport still survives.So I guess that answers your question to some extent.You should also take into consideration the early boom years,were exploitation years,with track numbers that could never be sustained for any period of time.Even the amount of race nights of 2 meetings per week at some tracks couldn't be sustained for long.

Hey,I am ok with the title It is like a work mate once said to someone who told him he was the slowest person working at the firm.He said ‘I am quite comfortable with that.The trouble is,if I speed up,someone else will be the slowest and that might put them under stress.Keep it as it is,eh?’