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Ron How made the world final in only his second season, which is quite an achievement

His book on Fundin was a great read RIP

As I said and one or two agreed Herxheim is the best for crowd/atmosphere. And if you make a few days of it nicely situated for a bit of sightseeing. 100km away from Stuttgart, which is a lovely city. Or in the other direction you have the German- French- Luxemburg triangle. Trier,Metz and Luxemburg are super and great countryside in the area and a major wine producing area.We got shown around a wine cellar just by asking a question . Very friendly area

Sounds promising. Good luck with that

Herxheim from memory has big maybe the biggest crowds Scheeßel is also situated between Hamburg and Bremen, both well worth a visit

Franky out for the weekend? In hospital after a crash yesterday,so it seems he won't ride in Inzell

Quite possibly, but were Egon Müller or Kevin Wölberts name ever spelt correctly in the UK? At least the press spell Müller correctly in relation to the Mueller report on Trump . Add to that a number of Swedes like Sjösten or Lindbäck....

I can say after AJ finished 2nd in 2011 I had a difference of opinions with Ghostie. I said I thought that would be the peak for him and Ghostie thought he could still go further. The debate must still be on here, and so far it looks like I have been proved right.

Just checked and it was 29th March v Wolves, and I was right for once, Leigh Adams guested,but TRick was all over the programme.Front and back cover and inside receiving the rider of the night trophy etc

The last time I went to Oxford was when he was in the team, but pulled out of the meeting beforehand for some reason !!! From memory Leigh Adams guested instead

That was the question as to how Simmo and Banger get picked for West Ham, when they performed much much better elsewhere

One insider told me Egon had a manipulated bike, but that it was something to do with the exhaust rather than engine. But can anything be proved ? Mostly rumours and they go right back to the 1930s

Or what if every Final was held at Norden for 8 or 10 years ? I agree, it is difficult to say Craven would have won even 1 more title. Were people thinking Jack Young must win another title at least at the time ?

Thanks Norbold.The Lofqvist situation was the one that was confusing me most.I think when Tommy Jansson first came to Wembley he was down at reserve,so thought maybe Christer was at West Ham.Then it would all fit into place.In fact I think it would be more interesting to make a team up of the best riders who actually rode certain positions,rather than the best 7 or 8 riders.Tatum for instance one of the best reserves I saw at Wimbledon,but not one of the best 7 riders

I do remember some meetings at Plough Lane in the early 70s where you had difficulty finding a way through the crowd.The gangways were pretty well blocked.But they were mostly individual(Internationale,2nd Division Riders or even the early Spring Classics or test match meetings.I seem to recall one of the England v USA tests in the early 80s being packed where I was.But maybe by that stage some of the stadium was closed off

I am a bit confused at how to put a team together.I am wondering if the riders actually have to have ridden in that position for a team,rather than just listing 7/8 best riders?For instance the inclusion of Banger troubles me,because I didn't think he was that great when he rode for the Hammers and developed into a top rider later.Simmo,i think did ride as reserve for West Ham,but did Löfqvist? That might explain the absence of better riders like McKinlay

Plus I think a number of Russians have refused to ride in recent times

A number of riders have had disagreements.Wiggy I think entered the world championships through the continental rounds rather than the British rounds when riding on a foreign license

Why was winning more difficult in that era? I think all champs from that era were multiple champs,which sort of makes it seem it was easy.If lots of riders only won 1 title I would say you have a point

But it doesn’t really matter that much.The year before TRick met some of his main rivals only once (Boyce) or twice (Hancock) . A year later and Hans had to meet all his main rivals 6 times....at least !!! Checked and Hans met TRick 9 times and Sam 7 in the first GP season.

Can’t you get there with your scooter? Take a few pics of the rats around Leicester !!! You’ve got all day as a pensioner And That is a brilliant record.They should let you in free all season

What was the case in 1964 with the final. The PL went black and NL riders were banned from riding on PL tracks and PL riders banned from the world championship I think. Then how did the SCB or whoever it was then allow the PL to host their showcase on an NL track? That seems a strange decision

I agree there.Just a pity I missed Fundin,Harrfeldt and Plechanov etc at their best

I know you are a fan of Valentine,so I put him in to see what you say But of course I can add for the period you mention Fundin,Harrfeldt,Plechanov,Eide,Woryna,Löfqvist for any of the 5 you think aren't better

Yes, add Briggo,Mauger,Moore,Olsen,Michanek,Sjösten,Persson,Jansson,Jancarz,Waloszek,Plech one or two Australians like Airey,Valentine or Boulger etc and all those Brits Tbh it is hard to put Wilson in the top 10 of the period when you look at his rivals,but top 20 or 30 for sure.Maybe 1 or 2 seasons he just squeezed in,but not over a few seasons