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cheers Alan do we know who will be replacing Laguta? Is it Jason? Also what is the race format in Russian league?

This is fantastic. I saw some clips of Russian speedway and the stadia and crowds looked great. Saw the U21 last year until the stream broke down and that was excellent. Any idea of the teams?

Good man Paul a very nice and much appreciated touch to the meeting.

At first I did not understand what was going on as I don't speak Polish but came here and saw the news. I stayed with it for a while and was expecting the meeting to be abandoned. Total respect to Rafal Darzynkiewicz And Krzysztof Cegielski for refusing to carry on the commentary. The scenes in the pits told a very sad story. Lee's former team mate Jonas Davidsson looked pretty bad and to me that was it but they carried on and I could not understand that. Jonas went out in a heat and moved a yard and then stopped as he did not want to race. Yes there was a very good crowd but the news was too much for several of the riders who were probably good friends of Lee. I turned off the stream and later learned that common sense prevailed and it was cancelled. It's a hard decision and I would not envy those who were tasked with making it. Whatever was done would be wrong in someone's eyes. Of course everyone will have to eventually return to normal and just carry. Lee wasn't the first and likely will not be the last as the sport is a dangerous one. I will watch Sky tonight to see what they say about Lee but am not going to bother with the speedway as just not in the mood today.

Respect to both of them. I have stopped watching as I agree with them. Jonas went out for a race and moved a yard because his mate has just died. What a silly and sad decision to continue.

Jonas was his team mate and he looked very upset. I think they should just call it a night. I thought Lee was battered and bruised but OK when they put him in the ambulance. What a bloody shame. Sky will call of tomorrows match I presume as a mark of respect.

I was watching and wondered what had happened. Good grief. What a tragedy for the sport. so sad!

I like Chris he is a decent speedway rider. But he will never be a threat to the SGP. Last night he looked worse than usual and then picked up a bit which is usually his SGP season. His top 3 aspirations look a bit shaky and he should look to a more achievable goal of holding onto 15th which is far from certain. As far as 2013 goes he deserves no pick so only the challenge should be open to him. SGP does not need a Brit rider in the SGP but Britain needs a rider in the SGP. We frankly don't deserve one. Young Tai has the right idea in qualifying on merit. Chris will fail miserably again this year and then try to whine his way to a pick. His Polish manager was right he is 'weak' and will never be one of the greats. A decent league rider indeed but world class....never! He has had his chances so it's time to hand his charity pick to someone else.

Worth watching just to see wild card Franc defeat ALL of the eventual finalists. That can't have happened many times in GP. And not only defeat them..... but defeat them well!

enjoyed that. Nice to see Chris doing something right for a change. exciting finish. do we have a link for tomorrows meeting? Looks like a cracker.

Anyone know the teams for tonight?

Got to agree with Alan about the coverage and speedway in general. It's great to see these speedway venues and watch a match live there and echo my thanks for those who place the links here. I think most of us had the same thoughts about the start line girls but only he was brave enough to say it in case they had relatives on the forum The commentary is a bit laid back and I enjoy Pearson on Sky who shows some passion bordering on insanity but I guess Kanal will improve both the angles and commentary as it goes on. The start angle is not great as I would prefer 90 degree to face on but it's free so complaining is a bit rude.

I would bet that ONE viewer was laughing his t#ts off at the first match. If not for Laguta's heroics they would not have made 30.

It will be good to see the US back in the SWC proper. Doubt they will get to the semi final but you never know.

I think it's a fair comment really. I know folks here go on about the good old days but it is true that the Brit 1st division used to field teams with 3 proper heat leaders, two second strings and a couple of reserves but today you are lucky to see 2 HL in a team and most teams are full of 2nd strings and reserve riders. Take Wolves they have 2 HL, 1 2nd string and 4 reserves maybe Ty might make a half decent 2nd string. Poole have 2 heat leaders, Coventry 2 but then you break HL down into those who are out and out #1 riders and most teams don't have one probably only Poole have 2 . Coventry are a team that don't have a #1 and Harris is a big fish in an incredibly weak league that is probably not even on the level of the Polish or Swedish Div 1. People like Kennet and Bridger are not what I would call heat leaders. Good 2nd strings. And that is the problem with our riders today. Harris shines in the laughably called English Elite League and gains an over inflated sense of his worth. His GP rostrum place assessment he had recently a testament to that. He is 2nd heat leader material at best and nowhere near #1 material. For me a #1 should average 9/10 points every match in a hard league and be capable of competing anywhere. Peter Collins was a #1 Chris Harris/Scott Nicholls/Tai Woffinden are not. But they are bulled up by Sky and many fans on boards like this and think they can compete on the world stage and they can't. Harris has had his moments but that does not make him a top rider. Egon Muller won a world title but could not compete in a league like BL1 here which was then the yardstick to the worth of a rider. Now it's Poland and Sweden the wheel has turned and our top riders are not cutting the mustard. Woffy today was poor and if he keeps that up he will be joining Harris and Richardson in the used spares bin. Scotty did the right thing and went for the Polish Div 1. He may gain some confidence and experience in a top league. EL racing is very good and the entertainment value high but it's a very weak league.. Today's Polish match was pretty dull. But their league is full of top class riders and guys like Harris can't compete. He is fine racing against 2nd strings in the EL but put him in a league like the Polish and Swedish set ups and he is no longer the big fish he thinks he is. It's sad as I would love to see Brit riders topping the world score charts week in week out but we are not good enough. We do not have ONE rider even potential world class at present. Woffy is someone who might well prove me wrong but at the moment he just does not have it. Harris is living off his worthy Cardiff triumph and seems to think he is a top class rider but his performance contradicts that. The Poles are growing tired of our riders not coming up to the standard they set their own youngsters like Zmarzlik and Dudek. Two riders who have the potential to go on to great things. We have Lewis Bridger. I think that says it all

enjoyed that....look forward to the next one

very nice stream and another nice little track. but weird format. Good to see Nicki in the Danish league. What are those strange figures behind the fence that seem to be crowded around in large groups? Never see anything like that at UK tracks

Thanks for that. Makes it easier to follow what's going on "The number 4's race against each other 4 times!" Very strange format in Denmark. Do we know who the teams are for tonight?

Does anyone have the format of Danish racing as it looks different to all the rest. 6 man teams over 15 heats?

English humour I just saw someone so utterly useless and assumed it was Harris :rofl:

Dudek is a star whatever league he rides in. Pity he could not have had an English Granny. But best race was Rosen and AJ. AJ was lucky Rosen is inexperienced as the lad should have won. Why is Chris Harris riding at #1 for Piraterna?

"Maybe all the aggro and hyped actions had something to do with the massive cans of Monster that were on free tap for the pits. I think if I'd drunk even a can I would have jumped on a bike myself!" Charlie Webster She could not have done any worse than Chris and might even have bettered his score.

He is a famous Polish rock star who did a song with Gollob in the video preparing for and racing. It's on Youtube somewhere quite catchy but nothing I would call great. Heard a lot better rock bands in my time.

It's a sad state of affairs if we don't have a rider in the top Euro leagues. I remember loads of Poles and Czechs coming here with poorish equipment and giving a good account of themselves and becoming popular against the odds. I used to love watching the late great Zdenek Kudrna who was a total trier every meeting. Ales Dryml senior was the same. Seen so many lads come here with bikes you could not give away giving a good account of themselves. We have a bloke who spends 20K on his bikes and I would not personally pay in washers most of the time. Scotty dropped down and that might be the making of him as he is a big fish in a little pond and may emerge again as someone to watch. Lee R was a disgrace yesterday. If I ran his team he would not be asked back to Poland again. Roman Jankowski could get back on a bike and do a better job than both Lee and Chris. People here used to moan about Polish and Czech timewasters so we can sympathise with Polish fans who have to pay money to watch our two.

So true mate. I laughed at the yellow line down the pits. Here that would never happen as it would involve buying a tin of paint and that would be classed as a major improvement to the stadium. Most tracks here are held together by the paint and as you say a luxurious stand like that for a tenner as opposed to standing under a tin shed or worm infested bit of old wood for 16. No wonder people stay at home and watch it on TV. It's not all the promoters fault true but the simple and easy things could make the place look 100% better in a week if they were applied. It's not as if they are building a space shuttle. Yes saw that advertised. Hope we get it. Also hope the Swedish league is covered tomorrow.