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4 out of the Leics team riders said it was slick when doing full team and Manager interviews on the start line with the supporters after the meeting ..

Surely your post is a double edged sword in one way because you are bigging up MJJ for riding for Dackarna (which is a rearranged match rained off from Tuesday) obviously where there is more money involved yet slagging off Ben Barker for signing for B,Ham because he was offered more money .Most of the riders these days don,t seem to have a lot of loyalty to either promoters or fans a sad case bought on by more and more parts and complete rollin chassis air fares and hotels expenses fuei costs etc.etc.they didn,t have until about 10/15 years ago .Sadly we the fans suffer most Hopefully B/B will do the biz and back up Hans and Bomber and with J/G riding his socks off we will be ok

To be fair some bees fans were asking for the match to be moved from Friday night all last week on the various websites connected to the bees and Mick and Neil were going to be damned if they didn,t and damned if they did .Personally I feel sorry for Kings Lynn fans who probably would have followed their team to Brandon on a Friday but due to work commitments won,t be able to come over Thursday .I,m more worried about Sunday afternoon against Leicester as Bomber and probably MJJ will have to travel back from the Grand Prix in Poland Saturday night for a 2pm start Sunday .Only takes one problem and we could be two short against a full Leicester side .I would have stayed with Friday night cos we had a full team and the money Mick lost on the match would have been offset when we win the League and get the prize money .

not much wrong tonight but as you were,nt there I consider that well into the meeting when times are usually slower than the first race a consecutive time of 59.8 for hts 11 and 12 being the two fastest times of the night uphold my statement you are of course allowed to make your statement but I think its a tad unfair to comment unless you saw it first hand

The only reason he thinks the tractors did more laps than the bikes in the first 6 races was because of Him moaning his duck off all b****y night thats what comes of racing on a slick trick track thats not coventry,s fault try looking closer to home

still is didn,t see Richard Lawson away team 2nd string Jason Garrity home team res or James Sergeant home team 2nd res have too much trouble getting round it 12/pts 10 pd 14 pts and 13 pts respectively and Bomber Harris been in his sick bed all day runs a last in his first race then gets 11 pd 12 from his other 4 rides Hans ran a bad disinterested last in his first race then he also gets 10 pd 12 from his other 4 rides Kenneth Hansen hasn,t looked at ease in any meeting this year but still got 9 pd 10 the only rider who didn,t benefit was guest Stefan Nielsen who finished up with a trip to hospital not because of the track conditions though the front wheel of his bike collapsed in the third bend due to a loose front spindle Lakeside were very poor apart from the rider I mentioned at the top of my post and Dak North was good value as well A question I would like answered if possible by someone in the know how can Davey Watt be introduced back into the team after he had been officially replaced by a guest (Danny King) I know he rode in place of Lewis Bridger but surely having been replaced he wasn,t eligible to ride ... Or is it one rule against Cov and special allowances for anyone against us

Sorry Alan and other forum members I unfortunately got overtaken by technology and posted my reply twice

Apologies Alan I thought you were referring to the track I totally agree with you about the Stadium When I was there as trackman under Linda and Martin Ochiltree during the winter months you hardly missed the fact there was a long wait before the new season as me and my helper Karl had so much to do on the cosmetic side repairing fence panels before the arrival of air bags painting any thing which looked dowdy and in the cold bit dec/jan even checking every seat in the stands for nuts and bolts which needed tightening and new sticky numbers being replaced on every seat (of which there are many) .Unfortunately the old stadium is looking very poorly these days maybe if all us fans pray hard enough for a miracle benefactor and a new piece of 99 yrs lease land for sport only usage we can reinvent a home for the Bees

Two things in reply point 1 Alan I think you are being unfair calling it a rubbish tip as most people have accepted the problem with the track surface was heavy rain on Friday /match cancelled /Sat 16 stock car /banger races /Sunday limited time on track Dogs 6 pm start /Monday very heavy but localised rain at 3.30 pm then a very late call to rip the track at 6.30 which then started to dry the track also not leaving time to water before start time /national anthem played at 7.30 but first race not out on track till 7.55 point 2 what the hell happened with the red light/flag failure in the tues swedish match could have been a very bad injury to Berntzon I don,t think I have ever seen a rider not react to both emergency warnings as bad as Przedpelski did

you are welcome to your opinion but no way was there any skimping (as you call it) on the track prep .When Sky are involved they need to understand how to prepare a track and what time scales you need leading up to the meeting commencement.This has been and always will be out of their remit as they have no bloody idea whatsoever as was proved tonight .The track prep was put on hold from 3.30 as regards ripping the track on the bends and as there was a threat of rain forecast from 4pm there had already been a heavy localised downpour at 2.30onwards so at that time the track was smooth but drying out as the afternoon went on .At 6.30 with only 1 hr to go a panic situation arose from Sky we need bends ripped up to give some outside overtaking moves .Now yourself and probably 90% of fans don,t realize it isn,t possible to rip this late without losing a certain amount of what was a good track up until then .By the time the trackwork had finished it was too late to water to any degree of success when Sky had a 7.30 start deadline so track now having been opened up is going to dry the more the evening goes on .Now I would like to know having been told 7.30 National Anthem why was there then a 20+min delay before we saw any bikes on track .Then the pedantic and stupid (IMO) refereeing in the opening few heats the track is deteroiating even more with no chance to water or grade .The final problem as regards getting a chance to redeem any hope of providing any success at all was the Sky company , or whoever was the tv coverage provider, told the track prep guys they were only allowed two laps after 4,7,10 and 14 as the coverage was being wrapped up by 21.05 as they had other highlights to include in the 2 hr show .This is not a cop out in any way shape or form as the track was poor but the weekend incl Friday ,s rain off onwards there was a lot of work done preparing the track from early Sat morning for 16 Stock Car /Banger races 5 pm to 10 30pm then up until 2 am Sun morning when things to do with the Dogs then had to be started for Sun nights meeting then change again Mon ready for a tv meeting .Being close to most of the work this weekend I thought I would put the opinion from the other side of the fence to probably a lot of you fans that are not party to what goes on .. Reference Stox at Eastbourne they don,t run on the speedway track

Thats because I hadn,t posted anything until my previous post the only reason I replied is because of the petty sniping at others that you and and one or two other posters seem to enjoy IMO unneccessarily .I am allowed an opinion ,as are you ,so best of luck in your amateur riding /cycle speedway my passion is Track Curating. I didn,t intend my post as a personal attack so hopefully we will agree to disagree .

I,ve read about 8 posts so far from you tonight trying unsuccessfully to provoke a reply from P/L fans and I thought although I don,t support any of the 3 lgs I would reply as a speedway fan in general .You and KKS/Jespen Jensen / and what ever other names he has come up with in the past are the reason why a lot of fans no longer post on the forums .I would say grow up and get a life but that comment will probably fall on deaf ears .Never mind very soon you will have the forum pages to yourselves and can play together to your hearts content night night children

I,ve got access to some nice coloured wool and Knitting needles if you want a substitute for Speedway Gem LoL cheers Mick C

I think that anyone picking holes in the track prep for last night need to understand it is virtually impossible to prepare a perfect track for passing and exciting racing when the powers that be insist on practice the same day as the meeting .Iv,e had the same problem as Buster Chapman during different meetings at Brandon over a 12 yr period .There should be a free Friday from league racing before world team cup to enable the trackman from whatever staging track to relay track after Friday practice so you can produce the best race surface possible. B.S.P.A. take note try to give trackmen some credit and time to do what is an art ..

This situation with red lights is getting worse with the upgrade of technology in cameras .There has been quite a lot of incidents at Leicester this season on the 3rd/4th bends of people taking shots of the racing from the crowd .The old time flash bulb on cameras were not a problem but nowadays a bright red light emitting from the crowd on the terracing is obviously in a split second racing scenario going to result in situations like last night .At Leicester numerous appeals to stop using the red flash were totally ignored by the various people using the cameras and I,m worried that unless some legislation is brought in very quickly a rider or riders are going to get hurt in a totally unnecessary accident .Please take notiuce BSPA and eradicate the problem..

Congrats to the gb team last night totally unexpected. I think Rosco is going to have to sweep very very hard in Poland on Saturday to get Steady and Danny bikes to anywhere near the front of their races as they didn,t look competitive towards the end of the meeting and you definately need speed on Polish tracks .Having said that if Darcy Ward has another night like last night and( Nikki ,NKI ,AJ etc etc have bike problems ) in the words of actor James Cagney "TOP OF THE WORLD MA " This last bit won,t mean anything to posters under 40 yrs old I,m showing my age sorry

What was wrong with the track I Wasn,t there to see first hand any details

Don,t think there are many sporting venues where you will pay only 62.5 pence per race to watch live .Ok I know people have to travel but you have to do that for most sports you need to eat so take your own food and drink your not stopped from taking it in Every thing you attend nowadays is expensive but if you think 62.5 p is overpriced I doubt if you will ever get to see any live big events again

It could cost you a lot more to watch the top riders if the current trend continues because IMO the top guys won,t be racing in UK next year as unfortunately Poland ,Sweden, Denmark can offer much more than our declining ancient E/L (the term Elite is used loosely here ) so you maybe flying to tracks afar if you want to see top stars .Also this is a discussion forum with different opinions no need for the HIgh Horses comment IMO

Interesting comments from both sides of the fence with Top Stars getting flak for wanting to earn money for themselves and family if they are married I Think British Speedway should change to one night a week on a two week cycle (1 home 1 away) with maybe a premier lge side or N/l side on the off week . The ultimate non negotiable main point being if Poland/Sunday Sweden/Tuesday Denmark/Friday ( or whenever their racenight is ) have a rain off it is up to them to bite the bullet and accept British Speedway takes priority on our nominated race night ,not as happened with Eastbournes Cameron Woodward and Joonas Kylmokorpi last week .Also if the rider or riders decided to stay abroad with their other employer they would automatically be banned in all other leagues for 28 days for not upholding a binding contract. Gb promoters will only be paying big stars once a fortnight, fans will turn up if they only get a once a fortnight chance to see their favourites, and if (as Coventry/Cradley/Mildenhall etc etc ) promoters field a cheaper team on their second week it will be a success as the fans have voted with their feet /entrance money this season in the N/L where The Storm (coventry) have been riding in front of some very impressive crowds . My last point is Track Curating must be improved and the shale has got to be the best ,which it has not been in the last few years ,this, although it is a major cost, if you only run top flight once a fortnight, you in theory shouldn,t use so much over the course of a season,and Curators must be paid decent money for the job .They (as far as I know ) have to be licenced by the control board and they are subject to at least one visit per year by the C/B inspector and they have their own rules and regs pages in the B.S.P.A. handbook which must be adhered to at all times .If they don,t do the job properly they can be banned . Just a few points/ideas I have been mulling over for a few months be interested to know if you are in agreement or wish to shoot me down .

I, just like to alter the last word in your post replace track with shape I consider my facts to be closer to the truth than your comments can you follow up with the names of the 4 or 5 tracks that have dismissed him and I note this is the second request you have been asked to provide the information or is it hearsay and climbing on the bandwagon in your case Just to let you know I was a Trackman for over 12 yrs at three top flight tracks also assisting at one other so I do know a bit about what attributes you need for the job . you were close he had 6 rides and was top scorer with 10 pd 13 but eastie score was 44 so he didn,t get a third of the total

I agree with most of your post but think you are being unfair regarding track prep there is not much wrong with the prep .Glyn Taylor is a very good trackman with years of doing the job but if the shape and then alterations were done without any input from him he can only produce a safe surface to race on . I think he has done so since the track opened and as the job is an art I think he has took a lot of flak for things which he has no control over.

To be fair I don,t think Andy has been to Cardiff before and if its your first time it is a fantastic experience.If any fans get a chance to do the pits tour and walk up the tunnel it is awesome believe me .Iv,e done 7 Cardiff G/P,s as assistant trackman with Colin Meredith before the Danish Organisation took full control and it is nothing like normal racing mode .It really is superb ..

It was a shame we had to have sky commentary team as when I first switched on and saw Scottie and Crumpie I was over the moon .Eurosport had what was potentially a top class commentary team at their disposal, I suppose Sky must have a clause in the contract to still use shouty and Kelv .Fingers crossed for a change in the near future. Good news is I had £10 on the mighty Grin at 7/1 pick up 80 smackeroonies in the morning

Haven't read rule book lately but I think there is an entry which reads no recall for all 4 back after 40 mtrs. I stand to be corrected but I know this has been mentioned before and I can,t remember in over 40 yrs of watching and working in Speedway any race where all 4 have been invited back from that far around 2nd bend it normally results in an exc for someone.