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And all the riders due to be there actually turned up..

Maybe UK Ice Hockey is a model that could be followed? Clear demarcation through the leagues... With the top league being the one that sells the sport... And the other division being very much a feeder league... 8 teams of "top level" riders with maybe five, or six per team.. The other league very much a second tier level with "old hands" and aspiring newcomers.. Ice Hockey has a similar minority profile like Speedway, but seems to get better crowds... You don't need many teams to be successful but do maybe need a geographical spread to have enough of the regions knowing the sport exists relatively close by.. Run this "Elite League" on the TV and let the other league (or leagues), live off the back of it.. Less really could be more, as currently meeting after meeting of "contrived nonsense" does the sport nothing but harm... Seven home meetings of high quality, well promoted meetings, all promoted as stand alone events, might just work... Top four into the play offs.. To provide enough meetings, the clubs could then make up another competition without all of the top level lads, using made up septets like we currently have. But do it well away from the TV cameras and keep it within the in house streaming...

Its a knockout had credibility and kudos in winning... If UK Speedway had ran it, it would be... "Tonight representing France is"... "Italy"....

With Kerr (or Howarth, or Ellis), at reserve though, it would have given Sheffield the capability to deploy a rider who can beat opposition HL"s, up to seven rides a night... Look seriously top heavy now....

There are big financial rewards already in place, which is the frustration... The Aces for example will have 12 meetings this year in the league itself.. At circa average £20 a punter, with around 1300 a week (maybe more as some good crowds this year), that would deliver over £300k... Seven teams delivering that as an average would generate well over £2.1M... And that is without sponsorship.. A huge amount for a sport that, in the grand scheme of things, hardly anyone has heard of... And, given it appears most clubs don't make "tens of thousands" of profit each season, you can only presume most of it goes to the riders... Smoke and Mirrors maybe but that kind of financial reward needs to be publicised to prick interest...

100%.... So to keep doing the same thing year on year that is consistently failing each season, and expect a different result, is unfathomable.... Evolution is always needed for any entity to survive...

Agree, when it became a "plaything" for most of them, rather than a bona fide stand alone business, it started to become ran that way... The rot also set in though when they tried to keep running the sport the way they always did, after the internet had come along... Instant news nowadays.. You used to find out the biggest name wasn't going to be there after you had paid to get in... You used to find out that you were going to watch a guestfest when the announcer read out the teams.. You used to find out that the weather was poor when you got there rather than hours in front, or en route so you can turn around... And then moaned to a few people around you. Now, all its failings are there for all to see well in advance, and shared around thousands, not tens..... Hence many decide not to bother, depending on the circumstances....

Peterborough and Wolves.... Any more for next year?

You are 100% right... And all the problems are down to it.... When something you run becomes beyond parody then you have a major problem.. When extracting the urine out of something is sctually less funny that the actual decisions you are taking the pee out of, then you might as well close the operation down... As there usually isn't any way back in the business world for that kind of organisation.. The "good news" is that we have two less tracks going forward so the "rider shortage" should improve...

He is currently sat in the car park....

A few million lira from 1980 maybe...

Not a chance... The riders need to earn money... A way forward would be found to keep the sport going.. Akin to the IOW maybe? Team Speedway in the UK has delivered what we have today... With the glaring fact when you look at the stadiums, that not enough punters, (many of whom follow the sport closely), buy into it and take it seriously enough to warrent spending their income on it.. A dead horse that they need to stop flogging, and, instead, try to find a new one to ride...

Poole's.

Not even Blu Tac sadly....

You would need to promote it with big prize money... Bottom line though will be that plenty of riders will need to earn, so they will be available. The current team sport model has driven thousands away due its completely contrived operating plan, which engenders zero emotional attachment, so, what really is the point of doing the same old, same old, every year..? All the tracks closing over the past 10 years shows it clearly doesn't work...

Watched a Supercross event several years ago in Manchester and had four hours of great entertainment, brilliantly presented.. Aimed at kids and adults equally.. I remembered thinking that if I was at the NSS, someone behind me would be moaning to me to "sit down, I can't see, and stop making so much noise"...

Team speedway I agree.. Death by a 1000 self inflicted cuts unfortunately, with all promoters as culpable as each other for allowing such nonsense that we constantly see pervade, which has driven many thousands away... Thousands that, if they were still regularly in attendance, would make a world of difference to landlords and their rent money level.. And, maybe, saved a few more tracks..? You would hope though, that given the raw product itself clearly has a marketable value given how good it can be, that the sport does carry on akin to how the USA and Aussie run their version of the sport.. Individuals in the main, with some contrived teams put together on an adhoc basis. (Who said just like we have now?)... Given riders need so many meetings, (and the sport is pretty much solely built to allow them to do that), it will he interesting to see what gets conjured up. Given Wolves have pulled out to allow planning to take place, you can only presume that some kind of plan is already being mulled over..

He should have the most titles won ever given his contribution to virtually every team, every season... Bottom line is, of course, it doesn't really matter anyway does it, such is the way they devalue their very own competitons. Even the individual titles are now avoided by many of the riders, when, once, they at least had some credibility and kudos in winning.. Fair play to Bomber, he never ducks...

Two British lads losing jobs to an Aussie and a Dane... UK Speedway... Three world class riders... In their formative years... One learned to ride in Oz... One in Germany.... And the other was an MXer with obvious natural talent on a Speedway bike... A conveyer belt of talent, all driven by the UK's fantastic plan to protect places for UK riders...

Pretty much every rider who has rode here for a decade should get a testimonial at every track in the land.... Bomber shoukd have at least 20 league title winners medals. And 20 losers ones too.,..

He will be "injured" that night, and they will bring Freddie Lindgren in... Special dispensation, at the discretion of the MC, in the interests of Speedway etc etc etc

I, like "dozens" of others, take it very seriously indeed thank you very much, and am setting off for Leicester in a couple of minutes, so I can beat the queues to see Dan make his debut for the Lions... I remember Max riding for the Aces v Poole then riding for Poole at Leicester later that day a few years ago... I think he knocked off Hans Anderson his "for one night only" team mate... Must have got confised after the morning meeting when he was an opponent... Imagine if this "Barry White" went out to the wider public on a mainstream channel? Imagine being an Aces sponsor, or fan, and Dan getting injured tonight and missing the play offs..? Not to mention Wroclaw's reaction. A country where it actually means something to win a title... Lemon already has Roberts number though just in case... Stay safe tonight Dan....

It says this was entered "1 minute ago" on my phone... It could have read "1 decade ago".... Or maybe even 2?

No way that would be still be valid.... If it is for an MC Promoter it will be 5 points...

You cannot declare a team with a rider you know will be missing can you? If you could then everyone would sign a GP rider at the start of the season then get guests for him instead of ever using him.. Dag Lovaas could be available?