mikebv

Correct, and as they pay out approx 60k a year now in rent with no bar take, no car park take, no food take, and receive no close season revenue from use of the venue. (All of which will drive revenue weekly in the new place). I would suggest 100k a year is more than viable..

I may be wrong, but didn't the rules change that each team are now solely responsible for paying their riders themselves from their home meetings?? Seem to remember that too many clubs were not getting money quickly enough from the 'home' team when they rode away, meaning too much of a delayed payment to the riders, hence this system was scrapped..

Did CVS really say that the PL was "a broken product"? If so, what does that make the EL??? As the song goes "isn't it ironic".....😃

Relax.... It is all part of the 'Masterplan'....😉😁

I would think it is due to the fact that the promoters foresaw the issues that the top riders not coming back would bring so they have kept the info to 'themselves'. The reason being that they know that there may be several 'in the interests of speedway' decisions to be made which would be questioned by the supporters if the list had been distributed publicly and they were then seen to not follow it 100%...

There we go, problem solved (file under 'custom and practice')..😃 We pretend to sign Zagar, Swindon pretend to sign Killer, Leicester pretend to sign Emil, Wolves pretend to sign Tai and KL pretend to sign NKI... They can all then use Bomber, Hans, Scott, and Rory as guests every week.... (just like every other season)......😰

Could we not just re-sign Zagar just to formally declare a team, never use him and run with 'Guests' all season? We could pick and choose the best guest for each track on a weekly basis... Come on, it is speedway, there must be a rule made up (one of those we the fans havent been told about) that allows it....

To be fair, that is what happens year in, year out with any averages they produce... I've mentioned before now, the year we were bottom of the league and so desperate we needed Crumpy back to keep the crowd attending such was the dissatisfaction.... To do this we had to lose Morten Risager as we would have been 'too strong'!!! So he went to Swindon, who were top of the league and at that moment in time, about 40 points ahead of us!!? A small part if me is hoping that the lack of 'top talent' is more down to a brilliantly devised masterplan to reduce costs which can down the line reduce admission charges, narrow the ability levels on track to produce closer, more competitive racing, and ultimately put in some building blocks from which to build a more positve future for the sport.... Of course a much larger part of me suspects it is yet another 'town halls' up....

Agreed Aces51, plus extra programme sales and car parking fees for those that own and charge... Its time that Speedway in this country ran itself as 'British Speedway PLC' where all decisions are made for the greater good... The NFL has many positive elements as part of its business plan that the BSPA could do well to look at and adapt, if not copy...

As this sport in particular has many 'generic' fans, ie 'neutrals' who attend any match as and when the fixtures appeal to them. Has no one ever considered a 'generic' season ticket? I cannot believe that many clubs get more than 100 season tickets sold looking at the overall attendance levels so surely that 20k or so isn't 'make or break' for their season...? Maybe a season ticket that allows you in to ANY meeting for say £500 quid is the answer? Could British Speedway get say 5000 fans in the country to pay £500 to enable them to watch any meeting? (maybe ex play off finals)..? If they could that would bring in 2.5 million to divide up amongst the BSPA members. 21 teams in the PL and EL would get 119k each. If the 7 NL stand alones clubs were included it would mean everyone getting nearly 90k each. (although given the different cost bases for the three leagues there would be, I am sure, some dividing of the money 'pro rata' re. the amount each club gets).. Lets face it, all tracks need each other, given the parlous state of the sport in this country so maybe this would assist everyone and truly get the three leagues working together? It would also, I would suggest mean bigger attendances, (even if many are 'neutrals'). As we know the larger the attendance, the more the atmosphere, so maybe any newbies attending would be more likely to come back after their first impression of the sport being that it has a 'reasonable' following and therefore worth revisiting...? I know that if I have paid my £500 up front I would ensure I got value for money and attended as many meetings as I could and I would imagine the number of away fans in attendance would also increase. Attend 50 meetings a year (quite achievable as Nigel often tells us that Speedway takes place most night of the week!😃) and it would be a tenner a match! As I say, it would mean the teams working closely together and I would suggest, clear central control of the money split... Not a bad thing that as Speedway in this country needs to start thinking 'globally' rather than each promoter just looking at their own operation in 'splendid isolation' and also start using the 'reach' of the sport nationally for positive growth for all rather than just a select few..

Given the fact it is a new track, maybe it gives GB their best chance for years...? Plenty of behind closed doors practice for the squad from the start of the season could be a major advantage.... Not many of the Polish, Swedes or Danish top riders will have even seen the track until the race off or the final given how so few ride over here, and the Aussies will only get to see it when their teams go there.. Time to look after No1 with a clear plan I would suggest..

The BSPA not clarifying rules to its customers thus keeping them in the dark lest they state the "bleedin' obvious" inconsistencies? Now that is surprising isn't it?😃 The rules that have been published open to all kinds of interpretation, contradiction, challenge and therefore, one can only assume, manipulation? Now that is another surprise isn't it?😃 Stadiums five sixths empty again next season? No surprise there I would suggest...😒

Watch it using my 'Android box' on the TV.... Its a great site.... Thanks for all the work you put in... Just watched a 'Golden Hammer' from 91.... Nielsen, Jan O, Ermolenko, Hancock, Hamill, Havelock, Screen, etc...

Stockport is less than a tenner in a taxi away.... Maybe just far enough too to not notice the event so much and hike the prices.... A couple of premier inns and a good number of privately ran establishments... Didsbury, Withington and Parrs Wood too also have a fair few fair sized privates, (oo er missus!) Travelodge, and B+B's.... Again, all within 15 mins drive...

All teams start relatively 'equal' at the beginning of every season. And then every year the bottom team always finishes miles behind the top of the league team..! Usually because the rules don't allow them to strengthen up sufficiently after it becomes abundantly clear (mainly after about a month) that they are not strong enough to compete.. A great system to use to run the sport...😃

As with many promoters, "speedway is great value for money, so I cannot fathom why so few come"...😡 Only seen two meetings at Leicester, one on a 'stream' with bet365, and one in person... When I went there I had a certain apprehension as to the quality of the racing as I had read 'ad infinitum' that the straights were too long and the bends too tight to deliver good racing, and the meeting I saw on the net was follow the leader with the leader half a straight in front most races... And guess what? Everyone who has suggested that the track is an issue were absolutely correct...!😶 Great facility for speedway being so far from houses, great attempt at engaging a 'younger crowd' the night I went, decent food, reasonable priced bar, and apart from the back straight terracing being 'too flat' meaning if you are stood at the back it is difficult to see, the spectator facilities are good too.. Just a shame the track doesn't make for good racing... Change that, make the racing closer, and maybe more than 1500 will attend? Who am I kidding, promoters know best!😝

Ken Wrench.... But you are right about the rest.... The issue is that someone like Ken would appeal to his audience as they are mostly of a similar vintage, however any 'modern' presentation would no doubt alienate the majority of attendees.. Ken has now gone on to take a well earned rest from the box and will watch his speedway from the Grandstand when we go to the new track.. It will be interesting to see what the Promoters come up with to replace him...

Don't think away fans' attendance would be a major consideration if they decide go to Friday evening racing... So few travel anyway so the thought would be that a Friday evening would increase the home crowd levels with no school, no work for many, the following day.. Lose maybe five away fans but gain between fifty to one hundred home fans would be the considered view I would suggest... Embarrassingly pitiful numbers though isn't it in the grand scheme of things? Yet, I would suggest, a pretty accurate description of the actual expectation of the change..😥 (And an extra 100 every week would generate around 30k a season if they all bought a programme, such are the low numbers the sport now deals with)..

Any business that sells a product that year on year, less and less people purchase, ultimately goes bust anyway... The savvy ones listen to their customers' feedback, make the requested changes from the feedback given, survive, evolve and even prosper.. The ones that choose to stick their heads in the sand and tell their customers "I'm happy with what I provide for you, there is no other way so take it or leave it" only go one way.... And it doesn't have a happy ending...

But I thought he was left handed? If so, won't he need last years Polish average converting by 23% to provide him with an average to ride in the PL (just in case the DU rules change).? Then won't this average then need to get converted to an EL figure by using his Swedish League figure (think its currently +/- 5%)? (But only his away average in Sweden obviously due to him wearing dreadlocks).. But then again he could just simply be right handed...? Which, if the case, will mean that the MC just need to ask Poole what average they would like him to have...😝😃

1st, Shirley???

Definitely be on the Sunday.. Won't be allowed to play Saturday at either 3pm or 5.30pm by the Police.. Means a great sporting weekend in Manchester...

😃 Now come on VOR.... Don't sit on the fence, tell us what you really feel....😂

A great piece of information... However, I think you may have got one vital piece of it wrong... I am pretty sure Newman should be below Ashley Morris!!! 😃😄😁😉

Genuine question, as I am not 'anti Poole' in any shape or form... Would Poole get a 'guest facility' for him if there is a clash? Because they shouldn't should they as they know when signing him the clear 'self inflicted' potential for him needing to be in two places at once... As I say, genuine question which applies to any team doing the same...