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Stuart Robson. Bit of justice handed out by Havvy jnr?

More like FC United of Manchester!

It is a change of ownership not change of promoters, who have been around a fair few years and know the score. I very much doubt Glasgow will be held to ransom.

Monarchs fans had stopped showing up in any numbers for 3 seasons prior to June 2010, to suggest it was because of the debacle at Armadale that month is absolute folly. The nonsense that night at Armadale finished off the remaining few, of which they are entirely justified. Trying to entice them back will be nigh on impossible, once you get out of the mode of doing something you no longer miss it, though I suspect for many it is a hardened mentality towards Glasgow than anything else.

Its been like that throughout my time watching speedway, during much of the Powderhall era, the Monarchs were notoriously poor travellers to Shawfield though were a bit better at Craighead Park. They did go through a renaissance during the early years of Armadale, packing out the fourth bend shed but that's going back a few years now. That's why I'm still astounded at the non reciprocal nature of our followers who I understand still travel through to Armadale in decent numbers. And for a gubbing. By heat 6!

Its been like that since around 2007 hence I stopped going to Armadale in 2008 and won't entertain the 'both teams need each other' crap that gets touted on here. It is however part of the general trend in speedway that fans no longer really travel to away matches, just that the Mon's started the trend!

Hopefully both the Spring Trophy and Scottish Cup are in the past now. Its a new start for us and don't want to ruin it with matches the paying fans don't want to see. Twice a season seeing the Monarchs at home is more than enough for me.

[quote name="Gazc" post="2559607" timestamp="1419712288" They might be new owners off the Club but have experienced Promoters on board assisting them in Stewart Dickson & Alan Dick and knowing both these two i would be very surprised that the proposed dealing's with Redcar haven't been done by the book. Different promoters have different books!

Wishful thinking it would be someone else!

Fair point, Theo it is then!

Vissing 7.09 Theo 7.09 Rusty 6.50 - best home rider by far last year Time for common sense to break out and move on to another rider.

No one is owned by anyone, slavery is over. Footballers are contracted to a club for the length of their contract, should they wish to move to another club during that contractual period the pursuing team will have to pay a transfer fee based on the players ability and the length of time remaining on the original contract. At the end of the contractual period, the player is free to sign for whom he chooses without any transfer fee due to the previous club.

He isn't bound by any law or obligation so why would it be illegal? He never signed a contract to ride for Redcar next year. If he had, different story.

No one is an asset of any club, their 'asset' status has no monetary or legal value and you couldn't take it to a bank and borrow against it. It is an archaic system that the administration of British speedway has failed to adapt from, having been outlawed by EU law most notably football around 20 years ago as a result of the Jean Marc Bosman ruling. Poland as an EU nation operate a system where riders are free to move after the end of their contract following the season end, why doesn't Britain. With Glasgow having deep pockets this year perhaps some of it could be spent on strong legal advice, then hope they don't get ostracised as Sands did around 2001. Should they part with any money for Summers they want their head looked at.

Great point though how long do you wait? There are only a few other options left we could pursue for the last spot. Regardless no money should be changing hands.

He should go to court if that happens, be the test case and stop it happening to anyone else in future.

True but if it could happen the extra rent could contribute towards funding the losses of speedway and/or improving the facilities.

A return to Shawfield? Why are Clyde leaving Broadwood anyway?

Seems Jack Holder won't be going to Somerset. Would come in on a 7.00. What a Christmas present that could be, and we wouldn't need to pay Redcar any money. Hmm!

We have nowhere to go if two 3.00 reserves don't cut it. We could have fitted in Rusty then had at least 4.00 to play with at reserve. We had top heavy teams throughout the 2000's, I don't remember any successes, I won't count the Pairs for this. 2006 was a decent year with Parker and Bird though mainly with Kauko chucking 2 points on his average. We still didn't win the league.

The rules of the jungle definitely apply. The outside bit is segregated by wire fencing all the way round.

Bulldoze it and force much of the pond life who frequent it away from the speedway and its punters. During the summer months coming out the gate at the fourth bend into the secure car park, the speedway fans regularly get it from those sitting in the outside bit.

Mr Pairman doesn't own the stadium.

Good to hear a frank opinion from a Redcar fan regarding Summers. I'm still astounded we are in for him. He does ride Armadale fairly well and I'm beginning to wonder if that's the only attraction bearing in mind the return of our previous promoter!

You shouldn't, its just another legacy of the prehistoric asset system that still runs because that's the way it always has been. One couragious individual is all that's required to bring it to an end.