THE DEAN MACHINE

the riders. Roberts lamberts piece in the star today , the one league 18 teams running on set days would be the perfect thing for him as it would be for worrall if he could only see it

good piece in SS but after seeing the riders responses to the twitter poll I don't think the riders are listening and I think for the bspa to listen they have got to go against the riders wishes , is that going to happen ?

I feel the IOW are doing the right things in the right way but are being held back by the sport

i thought kildermand was the replacement for pedersen and smolinski was for Hancock ??

I'm not losing interest in speedway in general it's just British speedway , I still love the GPs and attend some of them and I love polish extraleague ,I subscribe to polish tv just for that and have been there this season to see some but British speedway has just lost my interest , I still go to buxton occasionally but it's more to see friends and the fact that it's close to where we walk the dog than the speedway itself ,it's not the racing there is good and bad racing in all speedway it's just everything else ,rules these days are reactive rather than proactive and often stink of desperation and even the most dedicated fans are totally perplexed by some of the rules and how they are interpretated , there is no or very little vision and I feel the fans are a second thought , I know some like Berwick and the Isle of Wight and a couple of others are really trying but are being held back by speedway in general in Britain ,nobody seems to know what to do and to me it just feels like we are plodding along , I care deeply about speedway especially in Britain ,that's why I keep mooting any ideas or thoughts on here and Facebook etc , when I read Phillip risings post " it looks like doubling up is here to stay" I just felt like another kick in the balls for fans ,where is our voice ? We don't seem to matter and I think it's just wore me down ,at speedway ,riders are one side of the fence and fans are the other and that is becoming true off the track aswel but the fence seems to getting higher , its speedways job and purpose to make you want attend and for me British speedway isn't doing that

have you noticed how similar the racing is to last year when it was a poznan , fast but no passing ,I'm told this is because the guy who does the track wants it that way not because the shape or shale , I've never been to poznans track but I'm told it's a good race track but last year it was a no pass track

then why the hell did the bspa announce it , they really are their own worst enemy

Genuine question as I losing track of who rides where , does Scott Nichols double up ?

why wouldn't they if they remained fit ?, I was spanering for skornicki until he got the sack , he was only riding for wolves and about 10 meetings for rawicz around 40 meetings in total so it can be done ,

but fans are being lost and this should be no1 priority , guests but only for injuries or for no1s

if it's 50 meetings that's 2 meetings a week from march till October , how many more do they want ? They don't do 100 now

i fail to understand how a rider can not make it pay on 50 meetings a year without guest bookings which is what one league with 18 teams would give and I'm not the only one who thinks this ,but more importantly the sport is losing about 10 fans a week because of stupid things like doubling up , I have sympathy with the riders I've been there I know the costs but when a suggestion is put to them about cost saving they gang up to rubbish it , I also know this I was one of them but you don't feel how heavy the rain is until you step outside

thats sad and really the end of British team speedway for me ,🙁 I think you need to get all the people on the "outside" who don't go anymore and show them to the bspa , maybe they will wake up

until we ask those clubs we won't know, if worrall want to become the world class rider he believes he can he has to ride in Poland and indeed already does for rawicz in the second division when his fixtures allow as my personal preference I'm not really bothered about a single race night and I am not really bothered about 1 league or 2 although I would like to see different teams instead of the same 7 but I absolutely hate doubling up and want it scrapped but understand riders concerns so why not have best of both worlds ??

If steve worral got a polish extraleague or polish 1st division place next season as the British leagues are now he will have to miss all the Sunday meetings in the uk and there are quite a few , if he would of thought about it what I put to him would of been having his cake and eating it , he would get up to 50 meetings on a Monday and Thursday in Britain and have his Sundays to do poland and the double up haters like me get what they want too , everyone's happy but hey ho guess he knows best

oh you really do or at least you believe you do

fine mate have it your way , you seem to have all the answers , no point in responding with anything worth while

they were private messages but I did also get some support but not from riders and if you want to judge support look a riders who like his posts, sorry if i didn't use the right words or you didn't understand my point

Judging by the responses from riders to me maybe it's time to shut down team speedway , make the sport like motox , the riders pay to enter then win prize money, that's all that matters to them , the fans can just go find something else to do , we won't be missed , how the hell did we get to this?🙁

explain how he would loose money ? He would be getting up to 50 meetings in Britain 34 of them gaurenteed and has his weekends free to make it in Poland , he doesn't have a point he just can't see past the end of his nose , if all 18 teams form one league then he will get the same amount of meetings as if he doubled up ,only difference is he will only be riding for one

The one point which I tried to explain to Steve worrall was with one league run on Monday and Thursday 18 teams means 34 garenteed neetings + play offs +4s + any other meetings including guest bookings and he gets his Sunday free to ride for rawich or whoever in Poland and maybe Sweden on Tuesday but he said it's not enough , to use his words "that's not going to pay the mortgage and equipment "

The results of the twitter poll were 588 voted 47% voted to scrap it , 26% to keep it and 27% for under 21 Brits only and it seems steve worral took offence to it 😳, what we have learnt from this is the poll was pointless , 36 gaureented meetings + play offs and 4s etc is apparently not enough ,fans want DU scrapped but the fans don't matter and are some what of an inconvenience and I'm a racist because I read tommy robinsons book , that also makes me an acholic and the president of the USA too then cause I've read Kelly Morans and Donald trumps books 😳

I had but to put them into teams using the current rules would take more time than I have spare

jeez Phillip I really haven't got that much time on my hands 😳 isn't that sort of thing what should be happening at bspa towers 😉 Do away with averages , teams can sign any top 5 but must include 1 Brit and the reserves must be 2 under 21 Brits

I've just done a rough count of riders , there were 114 riders who rode in the top 2 leagues this year and around 60 that ride national league alone ,one big league of 18 teams of 5 =90 riders needed (surplus of 24 riders ) + 2 under 21 British reserves who can double up to make the teams , this doesn't take in to account any foreign riders who would like to ride over here and there are some , it can be done and should be done and all those who say not enough riders I've just got cramp from writing all the names down just to prove it can happen