THE DEAN MACHINE

yes and it now looks like in top league

Adams average is 7.22 in the elite or whatever it's called these days , not sure what it is in premier or whatever it's called , Redcar have spoken to Adam in last couple of weeks but have chosen not to Go down that route and it looks like Adam will be in top division now

Adam would ride for Redcar

and you can get a jawa for less than half of that and they are good enough for national league and premier or what ever it's called these days but you can lead a horse to water etc , cheaper to run speedway is right there Infront of our eyes we just need to open them, with cooperation from jawa we could get the engines as we want them , am i the only one who can see the potential in this ?

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Skornicki is availible

engines are completely different now from 80s and 90s and i know of at least one top rider who uses a sleeve to reduce his inlet when he rode at lakeside in the last few years

This agm should of been held by now , even if it means teams like Plymouth have till January to fully apply , they can still attend the agm , no consideration is being given to national league supporters

sorry , been reading to much fantasy books lately and I'm starting to believe them and it's clouding my judgement

Why not reduce carb size to 32 mm , can be done cheaply with sleeve , kills all birds with one stone for pennies

why would he have problems with it when he doesn't hit the limit and how did it reduce costs ? The limiter didn't do anything and he did 87 races of which Peter John's says he doesn't recommend doing , as I said if it gives you satisfaction then use one but don't force it on everyone when most of the riders don't even Rev high enough for it to do anything and that includes Greg Hancock, I do agree it won't cause any engine damage though

it misfires , put in rev limiter in YouTube , plenty of bikes and cars showing limiter noise

he had it set at 12,000 and he will only hit 10,500 in any race race and although he said it "can" hit 14,500 on start line he proberly wouldn't on British tracks so if it doesn't hit the limiter it has no barring on service bills , you do know santa isn't real don't you ?

to be honest I would be surprised if any national league rider would even hit the limiter on a British track , the only time the top riders may hit the limiter at 12000 is at the start and on most British tracks not that much Rev is needed to get out the stsrt yes of course it is 🙄

it has been tried , as I said if a rider thinks it works for them then use it but don't force it everybody , the answer is a complete new engine idea , if the actual engine wasn't so awful on speedway the f2 idea would be perfect. I still believe the answer is jawa , the cost , the capacity to build enough and the know how , it just needs someone to grow some balls and tell them what to make and enforce it through using holomagated parts

so Peter John's is going to tell all his customers if they fit a limiter they don't need to bring their engines in every 40 or so races they will then do 90 races , like hell he will , so where is the saving ? , not very often I agree with rob Godfrey but I do on this , it will achieve nothing , if a rider feels like it's a worthwhile benifit then they can fit one , doesn't need another pointless product being forced in, all this is just another example of the speedway disease , papering over the ever widening cracks

Phillipsr ,on the question of who would be buying the engines for the GP ? Well as it is now domestic speedway is paying for the engines for riders to use for their own and bsi gain and where is the return for domestic speedway ?

that is pretty much what I've been banging on about for a couple of years now but nobody will listen ,the sport is run by the mechanical side and untill this is changed will we only go one route and that's not the route the fans want , I have been around bikes all my life , I have practically lived in a workshop for 30years and still own 7 bikes I am a real methonal head and I still say the engine doesn't matter to speedway fans

on the first point why not only allow long stoke with heavy flywheels then not only would you bring revs down but would make the bikes predictable again and the 2nd point , either way the end result is putting riders in danger

Why not reduce the current engines back to 2 valve heads , you would reduce the revs by nature and the costs of valves and springs would be halved i am a mechanic and it's very few idiots who Rev engines to much in the pits

so as I said if it's set way above what is needed what's the point of it being there ?

if the engine doesn't hit the limiter during a race what's the point of the limiter ?yes John's does but we are talking peanuts in money saving , every rider should know the importance of a clean air filter and yes there are mechanics who Rev the engines in the pits but we are talking hardly a difference in cost , gerhard , kelvin and Peter are all good at their job which is to be the fastest but as a way forward for the sport they seem ignorant and single minded that the problem speedway is not a motor sport , it's a team sport on motorbikes

fine , bury your head in the sand as usual , Peter John's and the like are driving this sport to oblivion , you can see it , everyone can see it , we are living it but still it goes on , maybe the sport deserves to die , you would think so the way that the influenceial people treat it, speedway is not f1 not even a poor mans f1 , never has been never will be ,the majority of fans both current and ex don't give a damm about engines or their tuners , all the sport needs is a cheap reliable engine that can't be tuned/ messed about with , enforced through holomagation of parts and strict rules , everything else is plastering over the huge hole we have dug for ourselves

Just reading the piece in the speedway star about the Rev limiters , a couple of points , setting the limit above 10,000 revs isn't going to make a dent in service costs and to set it lower is dangerous to the riders and all these "experts" keep ignoring the fact that all motorsports use the same principle 100% traction from rear wheel onto the ground but speedway is completely the opposite , it requires the exact opposite way of thinking to ride , the clue is in the fact that a tyre lasts 5 mins , it is stupid to any engineer to have a single cylinder engine Reving at over 10,000 and only producing 65 mph but that's speedway and these so called "experts " should know better

you need to get canal+ tv ,Sunday on polish tv does put our sport in the shade