THE DEAN MACHINE

Your missing the point I’m making, it’s Buxton I’m talking about, where you wouldn’t own the track but the rent is tiny compared to other tracks and that is for practically unlimited use and you get the money from absolutely everything from catering to practice days, as I said it’s not the ideal solution but it is by far the best most cost effective solution to the crap that British speedway finds itself in, honestly making a point to you lot is like talking to the bspl 😂

It wasn’t just heat leaders it’s was second strings and reserves too, he was beat by flint and rowe at Sheffield earlier this year scoring 3 points from 4 rides

And that’s where the sport will be changing,the money for riders will be less, do Oxford get catering and bar profits ? Which as any entertainment business will tell you is where you can make serious money, Len silver used to let fans in for free at rye house when they were against lesser attractive teams so he could make more money on his fish and chips and beer and that was a fact, I know I was there on a few of those occasions, the tv money was not really a pittance, in the grand scheme of things it was a welcome few quid for promotions and will be a big loss, on average rent for a track is around £50,000 a year, some more some less, so if you pay nothing that’s £50,000 saved before you have even started,I haven’t anywhere said this is a perfect solution but it should be considered because the alternatives are far worse and far more costly

But non of that is a factor on his away performances at Sheffield or belle vue when he barely beat the opposition , I like Musielak and he is a friend and I would have him in any team but he was very disappointing on tracks where he should of been good

Except he was top scorer at home most weeks and went to places like belle vue and Sheffield and did nothing

Well Birmingham didnt get crowds of 700 except for couple of occasions, Buxton would have derby matches against Sheffield and belle vue and Buxton’s rent is a 10th of Birmingham and also has the catering money which Birmingham didnt, so factor all that in and if they can get the same tv deal that was available this year it may just be a deal breaker

Greyhounds have their own channel

Unfortunately upright engines are not the answer to any of speedways problems as much as I would love them to be

I will be talking about the lack of riders on speedway 360 podcast in a couple of weeks and how we go about getting more riders involved

There were around 25 from wolves who went to Buxton when they were in national league 8 years ago but even 50-100 is a £1-2000£ a meeting more, not going to happen anyway

While I agree with this, Buxton with the right promotion could attract around 700, it’s location has a good catchment area of closed down tracks and I believe if it were wolves they would get a few hundred go, they didn’t go to Birmingham in numbers because it wasn’t wolves although there were a few most weeks and more when Leicester were there with their ex wolves riders, I know this cause I spoke with lots of them who wouldn’t go to Bham because of this as I said it a ridiculous idea but not as ridiculous as some being banded about, it surely has to be less financial risk than Northampton? Who has no previous fan base and is 40+ miles to the nearest ex track ? I know the rent is considerably cheaper at Buxton and it’s around 50 miles to Buxton from wolves and it’s less than 20 from stoke , this isn’t ideal by any stretch of the imagination but neither is running a nomad team with no home track and yes the current wolves promotion are not interested

I’ve nothing against Dale but genuine question is he still around ? Haven’t seen hm for couple of years

I’m with you on this, other than some sort of big deal I can’t see what they going to do that isn’t worse than last year, I have said for a few years maybe the top teams should ask to join the polish extraleague but the poles won’t let that happen so that’s a no go, I was told moths ago that something way different was happening but they wouldn’t say what but heard nothing since but a couple of things I heard recently which I know are true are very troubling but are complete contradictions to what is out there in the public domain and just don’t make sense at all, the bit that really throws the curveball is the Harry Redknapp thing, that man does nothing for nothing, he is on an earner somewhere and speedway on the face of it hasn’t got a pot to piss in so what’s the deal ?

The more I think about it the more I don’t know why they don’t run a premiership team out of Buxton, the rent is cheap enough and with the right promotion I would think they could get around 700 crowd, maybe if it was run as Wolverhampton then more than 700 is possible? it’s sounds ridiculous but no more ridiculous than some of the ideas I hear being banded around at the moment, it doesn’t have lights at the moment but that surely isn’t an unclimbable hill

I will be talking about this very subject on the speedway360 podcast when I’m next on in a couple of weeks time, imo why we have a lack of riders and what we can do about it

Yes

This is on the riders, they stick together and say no and it goes away, it’s that simple

It’s trivial, at this point in time we haven’t got a sport, we need to sort that out before we even contemplate how teams are made up

Unless someone is on a wind up which is possible although they not known for their sense of humour we are heading for something really big, I don’t know what it could possibly be,all the rumours I hear are 2026 the same as 25 but with less teams which is a thoroughly depressing thought and imo is going to continue the demise of British speedway, I hope there is an idea out there somewhere to drag us out of this mess the sport finds itself in my

You are right I don’t know that and I’m not party to any official information regarding speedway futures or the bspl although I do hear things which I know are true and either don’t make sense or are troubling

But my point being most of the BSPL members seem to have been cut out the deal and they will have to accept whatever crumbs they are offered

By the sound of it that’s exactly what British speedway will be getting but I’m sure the sail off into the sunset will be a pleasant one for the few, Harry Redknapp doesn’t give a flying F**k about speedway and he does nothing for nothing

So basically some of the BSPL have set up a company (speedway futures Ltd)to get a media deal for British speedway which they will sell to themselves (BSPL) and keep a finders fee for themselves (speedway futures )excluding the rest of the BSPL from the profits or have I got that wrong ?

What is the actual job of speedway futures Ltd ? Are they running British speedway ? Are they trying to find a sky sports type deal for the sport and then sell it to the bspl (themselves) and keep a finders fee like Russel did last time ?

5 teams won’t work, surely they know this, at this rate by 2027 we will have the equivalent of the Oxford/Cambridge boat race