the hobbit

Sadly, as you’ve found to your own cost “Give us a B”, the Brummies forum only accepts positive views made by people with rose tinted glasses. Anything remotely negative just gets you slaughtered or banned, as you well know I you were able to go onto said forum, you’d see that it is virtually dead!! Hardly anyone posts anymore. I think most people have decided that if you have nothing good to say then say NOTHING!!! yes, I do mix a lot with the management and am torn as to wether or not to email them with my views as I genuinely feel for them. I fully appreciate them saving our club and understand their reasons for putting together this team. I also know from talking to them last season just how upset they were with the criticisms they received. I know that at one stage, there was the possibility of them wanting the forum shut down and even a feeling of considering strong sanctions against certain fans so, what do you do? I don’t want to get banned and I don’t want to be seen as the reason why the promotion walk away but, I have strong views and want to see the club flourish. This will not happen with this team it really hurts me to see my beloved team in such a poor state of affairs and venting on here helps ease the stress and the feeling of saying enough is enough and walking away from the sport. What would you do Give Us A B? Would you email the promotion and if so, what response do you think you would get? one abiding memory for me of last season, was just how extremely angry the promotion was over the criticisms they were hearing and the actions they considered because of those criticisms should I email my thoughts to them?

To my mind, Zach is a major disappointment. He quite clearly looks for the safest place on the track where he is in no danger of contact with any rider or any situation which may need him to mix it with an opponent. Yes he’s scoring his average but, he’s staying safe, not taking any risks and several times last night, you could clearly see him close the throttle off or deliberately change line to stay safe rather than to race. The clearest case was against Kennett when he gated level but then, turned sharp right going into the first bend and rode the fence to avoid having to compete with his opponent. We all saw that no one rode the outside all night as there was no dirt, no grip and no point doing so Zach is flattering to deceive. To me he hasn’t had a half decent meeting so far but, is settling for safe second and third places in most races. He makes one decent gate a meeting for a race win which helps his average. I wouldn’t shed any tear if we dropped him this is without doubt one of the worst ever Brummies teams I have seen and I’ve been watching since the late 1970’s It won’t win a meeting all season, home or away. Ulrich continues his downward spiral and is at best, a third heat leader. Unfortunately, we don’t have any other heat leaders, the rest being second string or reserve quality at best. Newman is a major disappointment and doesn’t Look like his heart is in it at all every rider seems capable of one good ride a meeting then several poor ones god forbid, we even managed to make Kennel look good last night. Our gating is appalling The meeting was over by heat five and we only looked better in the later part of the meeting as Eastbourne relaxed and eased off. Its May 2nd. We are out of both cups already and can have no hope whatsoever in the League. Season over already i undrerstand why the team was constructed this way, to be able to afford to survive financially BUT.... the team is so weak that only the die yards like myself will watch it: people will not come to watch this dross every week attendances are woeful and will only get worse I, as a diehard , am struggling to find the motivation to go every week despite being a season ticket holder I had booked the time off work to go to every away meeting but, will not be going away, to watch this team as I work way to hard to earn my money, to waste it on a completely uncompetitive team such as this i don’t think the owners are prepared to spend the money needed to sort this out and sadly, I an see us folding mid season things aren’t helped you having such a tactically inept team manager with both the meeting and, the tie long dead, he takes Tobias out of heat eight , his easiest ride, when he needs all the track time he can get then, he uses Kyle who is struggling badly as his tactical rider when surely it should have been Ully. Rogers is speedways answer to boris Johnson he’s a clown last season was ruined by not making the glaringly obvious changes and I have no doubt the same will happen here to have to keep reading official club reports that we are only a few points from winning a meeting and that there were many positives from our performances, is quite frankly an insult to our intelligence this team is garbage and with it, we are doomed to closure

The facilities are on the whole very good but, there is no real outside seating. There is however an excellent indoor restaurant with superb seating and viewing car parking is available at the stadium for a small charge but spaces are limited mist people park at the one stop shipping centre snout two minutes walk from the stadium and it is free

The promotion have always said they were working to a five year plan and made it obvious that moving up the leagues was their intention but I agree that it might not have been this quickly. The watering down of the National League and the reluctance of many of our fans to attend other than Championship level, seems to have brought the planned elevation forward somewhat.

Last season according to Jayne Moss from Buxton

Ben Barker is at Redcar.

Can anyone local to the track, provide weather updates please as we are in Marsden and it’s absolutely tipping it down at this rate, can’t see it bring on and I’m certainly not forking out £50 admission money for a rain off as there’s no way we’d be able to get to any restaging , due to work commitments thanks

Yes, I’m the Hobbit, aka Bilbo Baggins. I respect that you have come on here and publicly stated both your position and have made apologies. I certainly feel that you definitely owed Laurence Rogers a massive apology. As you know, I dish it out somewhat on the Brummies forum and as such, I expect people to fire back at me at times so, with that in mind, you don’t owe me an apology as I work on the principal of if you give it out you’ve got to be able to take it back we are all passionate fans but we must be aware that there’s a line you don’t cross, espescialy where dishing out personal or insulting comments are concerned and unfortunately, as you seem to have admitted, I think you crossed that line too much but it takes balls to publicly admit it!! I hope you keep posting on here as you obviously love speedway and, The Brummies so, do as you’ve said, control it better and keep on enjoying supporting the Brummies

Will be ten yards first bend side of the start finish line near a small gate

Pity you didn’t have the balls to put this post on the Brummies Forum where your rant occurred , rather than on here just deleting the offending post then hiding the apology away on here, is just copping out does the “b” in give us a b, stand for BRAIN?

We couldn’t win at home so why do you think we can win at their place? I hope we do but, I think the difference will be that the Kent reserves will heavily outscore ours so, Kent by 12 or more

Not if you’d seen him tonight. His head has totally gone up im afraid with Layne and . Aaran at reserve, we have absolutely no score power and no options not even sure either rider will be able to complete heat two at either Easto or Cradley without falling off so, at most, we will get only one point from their eight rides, possibly no score at all !!! We are screwed now Leon is in the team as the reserves simply will not score sorry

this years green sheet NL Averages 2018 matches only National trophy and knock out cup do not count average earned after completeing FOUR national league matches, be they all home, all away or any combination the new average comes into effect 7 days after completion of the fourth N L match thereafter, all future NL matches up to 23rd of next calendar month go towards each subsequent new average which then takes effect from 1st iof each calendar month unattached 3 point riders can no longer go through the season guesting here there and everywhere without getter by an average. They now get an average after competing in 4 NL matches, no matter who they ride for during those four matches clear as mud!!!

I think there will be a reserve switch fairly soon but despite Embleton being a good shout, I don’t think it will be him. I’m expecting it to be one of the lads who shone at our press and practice but it wasn’t available until the end of June

JPB is out with a shoulde injury which has left him with no feeling in his arm and, hand

Surely it’s now time for the officials to call time on this dreadful Stoke promotion and eject them from the League. That might allow Buxton to sign some riders and keep them going. At least the Buxton promotion want to run a team and want to fulfil their fixtures. Unlike this shambles at a stoke year in, year out .

Just shows how with it the Eastbourne management are. Their new official green sheet averages are effective from today 01/6/18. Edwards is in the team

Forget the final score Coventry fans and praise your team for its efforts last night. coventry gave us a really hard match despite the final score line. They certainly came to win and were so determined early doors. We were given a gating lesson early on and so much so that several Bees rides were pulled back for jumping the start whilst several other got away with fliers Luke Ruddick in particular impressed. Tried his socks off. Some superb battles between Hume and Mountain. once we stopped throwing away silly points by needless falls, we were always going to win but, I felt you gave us our hardest match other than Mildenhall As for choosing Stephen Whitehouse, THANKS!!! We at Brum, have seen more of him than most have and frankly, he’s NEVER going to make it, not even at this level. Embarrassing lack of speed and technique. Over three quarters of a lap behind in each race and going backwards!! Having said that about Whitehouse, it just shows the stupidity of the rules. We snd others have deliberately scheduled all our league fixtures late do as to keep “star” reserves such as Flint and Kemp / Edwards, at reserve until late June, early July!! How stupid is the rule where National Trophy and!, KOC cup matches don’t count towards Official Green sheet averages? As suggested by Sings, there are not many options you could have used at number 7, but all of them would have been better than Whitehouse!! A good meeting, some great races and a really good show from BOTH teams

Yes via the internet radio WM is covering it on their digital service. Believe it’s listed on the BBC Sport app as a download

Let’s not knock Jayne so much folks. Anyone who reads the Buxton thread regularly will know that she regularly interacts with fans, giving them information and insights into the what, why and wherefore of many situations. She has always come across as someone with the fans best interests at heart and, I wish more promoters were like her. I am a Brummies fan but due to work, wasn’t there on Sunday so I don’t know what really occurred but I’m sure that whatever may have been said by Jayne in the heat of the aftermath of the event, that when things have calmed down, she will do the right thing. I’m sure this will include making sure no fan is left feeling ripped off or, out of pocket Anybody who puts their heart and soul into an enterprise such as Buxton which let’s face it, is never going to make anyone rich, should be applauded so despite the rights and wrongs of yesterday the sport needs promotors like Jayne and, clubs like Buxton, If the comments attributed to Josh and Jayne on social media and on their official club website, are a little one sided, can any of you really say that your club has never been guilty of this, has never seen things only from their point of view? any real fan who has been around speedway for any length of time, knows how these things work regarding re-admission tickets, and the risks taken when attending meetings where there has been a prolonged period of inclement weather. yes, that’s probably why so many fans don’t bother taking the risk these days so ALL PROMOTORS should bear this in mind before they take people’s money and admit fans into the stadium if there is even the slightest chance that the meeting will be called off. The sport can’t afford to lose any more fans and at this rate, not even the hard core fans will bother attending away matches in anything other than the middle of a heat wave. Away fans are becoming as rare as rocking horse droppings at most meetings these days. what really concerns me most about yesterday is that it seams that Jayne was saying that the track would be ok after a few races which implies that it wouldn’t have been ok during those races!!! With there being several very young and very inexperienced riders in both teams, this could have meant one of more getting seriously injured. It only takes half a lap for even an experienced Grand Prix rider to get seriously injured JUST ASK MARTIN VASULIK If there is any risk to these young riders, their safety should always come first and the meeting should ALWAYS be cancelled Even if Josh and Jayne got it wrong yesterday, this Brummies fan is prepared to forgive them as I’m sure that when push comes to shove, they will do the right thing by the fans who were left feeling so annoyed and disappointed yesterday

Yes there was a trainee referee however he was being overseen by one of the most experienced referees around trouble was, the experienced referee was once again useless!!!! He ruined our first meeting of the season by continuously holding the tapes too long and last night, he was even worse. Riders from both teams were furious with him as they were held under the green start light for so long on, full engine revs at the start, that they were risking damaging their engines. There were some choose “expletive - delitives” being used to describe his performance by several riders after the meeting and in fact, during it as well!! At one point, he was loudly booed and heckled by the Home supporters It was almost as if the ref wanted to be the centre of attention he was but, simply because he once again showed his gross ineptitude !!! He’s bloody useless

See me about ten yards first bend side of the start / finish line and I’ll give you a race card we stand right next to the little gate that they use to get onto the dog track Bilbo .

Just check out the official Brummies Twitter feed for the most blatant hint you’ll ever see

Shane Hazelden was at the Birmingham press and practice today and looked sharp. He said he was on about 5.4 but thought that might be reduced to around 4.9 due to missing last season due to injury certainly looked to be over the injury and could do you a good job

The club FORGOT to remind people via the official website and twitter feeds that season tickets didn't cover last nights meeting. As a result, it was decided that they had no choice but to let season ticket holders in without paying. I have no doubt that the fact that people thought they had got to pay, combined with the poor weather, contributed to a sparse looking crowd. Still feel that season ticket holders were shafted at the end of last season and that like me, many people haven't forgotten nor forgiven the club.