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Too much testosterone there last night for me, but a good Cabaret act to make the evening entertaining. But the facts are clear and I was there, what you had is a little young villain Greaves that was acting above his station, and trying it on with Sergeant at the start line. Trying to score points overhim ready for monday. Irrespective about the start if it was the big boys its a racing incident. But when the ref makes a decision to exclude a rider for dangerous riding in a race lap 3, there is obviously some thing wrong. What the Serg did was also wrong but that was pure frustration on his behalf, yes there was the stand off and a punch thrown by Greaves (wrong), then the bike being kicked over (wrong0 but the guy getting run over was an accident, Serg was riding a bike back to the Pits (no Brakes it say on the adverts)and there is a mechanic in front of him running down the ramp. Not rocket science over he went. Was he a mechanic or a hanger on, Had he signed his release to be in the pits and why was he on the track area. ( all questions that need answering). Who ever grabbed Sergent off his bike when it was moving was wrong and should be punished big time, some one got hurt from this. The incident with the crowd was all wrong and Grieves should go out of the meeting no iff's ands buts. The fans Crowd are the people that pay the wages, no fans no meeting, He was out of order and nothing other than an immediate ban for the Cradley rider, and yes I mean Swindon on monday. Mick Horton has a responsibility to look after the supporters in every way and for a rider to jump the fence and go into the crowd is dangerous and threatening and should not be tolerated at all. So sorry he has to go away and get his head out of his back end, learn that some things you cant do in life. Serg is not an innocent party but that should be to the BSPA to judge. It would be worth finding out how many in the pits were working mechanics and how many were hangers on, and who had signed the disclaimers.

First time for me, Given up on Sky and no Eurosport, so an added bonus pre World Cup to see Speedway on TV. Excellent coverage, seems like a joing venture but well deserved thanks to Quest. How about starting a petition to make this happen again. What will it take to get our sport back on the tube and show what the sport has to offer.

Agreed with most of the posters on this topic, but the onus lays with BSPA. It needs a complete re look at the Team GB set up or team England what ever you wish to call it. Firstly, it needs to be nothing to do with BSPA they are only interested in them selves. A separate manager that takes overall responsibility for the programme. Funds need to be set in place for an independant company to go get sponsorship and that is set aside from the Rugby office vultures, and under control of the manager. Teams shall be sorted out early in the year and be part of an organisation. Each rider shall at all times display Team sponsors decals on Kevlars and Bike. Each rider wil recieve a set amount of funds to have Engines to a standard and to be maintained. Each riders mechanics will be suitably dressed with Sponsors decals. The manager will organise tests and have access to a training track for testing, Kings Lynn and Stoke perhaps Coventry. The riders will recieve mentoring at all levels, Phil Morris and perhaps Mark Loram, and or an engine builder. There can be access to a Sports therapy, psycologist. The team will be jointly mentoring each other as a Team GB member, Seniors will help the juniors and all around. It is not rocket science, only needs funding and as always this is the crux, but you will never get anywhere if the Team owners are looking out for them selves only. We have plenty of tallent and ability but it has to be channeled, but you got to have something to sell to sponsors. Comments please

While I think that Rosco will have his heart on his sleeve with the job, and give it all that he can. I think there was a bit of old boys network again. Best of luck to him but I bet somewhere the BSPA will be pulling strings as usual, and at any meetings the Blazer brigade will be there in force parading around like Peacocks. But I bet if Rosco asked for some funds to cover a load of testing around Europe to get a team gelled and firing on all cylinders ready for action, to so be called promoters will be gone with a cursary sorry old boy. Looking forward or back, I feel that if Phil Morris had been given the job provided he was not involved in a league team, he will have had all the opportunity to travel and watch many riders in both leagues, Working with the under 21's as well, he would have continued his programme of development correctly with out haveing to use favorites. The Team needs sponsors as an entity, both Snrs and Jnrs, money for development and training, Team bonding, Group sessions, access to a track regularly for try outs and bike testing. What ever happens it all depends on funds, give the boys a pay check as well. Best of luck to Rosco but his hands will be tied somewhat, and I think we may have missed the boat with Phl M. perhaps they should work together and consolidate the effort.

Interesting reading all the posts about whos good and whos not, You have the debate about Team GB and USA, wells V barker, Bomber V Fishdog etc etc. No one has mentioned about the engines they ride. take it that there was money behind USA, they had Greg working with Billy on what engines for the big tracks and so forth. Team GB had Cooke turn up probably with his regular bikes, nothing special. where as other nations had probably different bikes and engines. Danny would have been the same, you cant expect our boys to ride against the best with regular equipment, Bridger is riding in Poland so he might have been a bit more savvy. Barker was called up for the overseas meeting and had two days to get there and or find engines for a big track. with bikes that had just probably done 4 meetings and needed refreshing. Bomber and Tai had bikes spare and engines to cover for where ever they ride and they are good. We cant expect riders to have Bikes and engine on hand just in case they might get a call to do two extra meeting and to a different specification etc. It needs the BSPA to sort out, Rent engines from a propper engine builder for the meetings, that way there can be no excuses. Riders get the call and here you go put this engine in, have the tuner there working with them to get the best effect and results. We also need some test matches against opposition home and away, seven man squad and give every one a chance to perform on the big tracks. Team GB V Poland at Peterborough and Wroclaw. we will never get the best out of our boys basing on results that some one is good at Bham , Edinburgh, Ipswitch or Belle View. It has to be on results from bigger tracks whee you will see how big the Ba---s are, who is different on big tracks. Team testing at Kings Lynn or Peterborough, a track man changing the track through the day Slick and Grippy. All this costs money and someone has to front up for it, you cant expect riders to front up with £8,000 pounds of engines based on that I might get a call. As to the manager it has to be Phil Morris, he works with you youth and can bring them along to the tests for the experience, gives everyone some running time and the likes of Mark Loram to be there as a coach. So you have a TEAM there to work with the boys all through, engines and chassi work. No good bringing along Rosco as he has a full time job and is not motivational. Put it in place now and start working to the future even down to a three yer plan for moving the team on as a package. Very lastly riders that are selected to the team have to leave their egos at the Pit Gate, we are a team and thats it! if you dont want to be in it or it's for me then off you go. Team GB is why your there nothing other. Any comments please.

I am unsure as to the bickering on here about the BB and Cook issue, old history and the book should be closed start afresh BB rode injured as everyone knows and it would have been dumb to try and win everything, he has more leage meetings and play offs to be ready for. He Twittered that Cook was riding excellent and congratulated him for his riding. End Of. The meeting ht 15 was there for them to scrap it out or Ben to use his head, he chose the later and did the team proud and closed the door for Monarchs to get a point by his excellent team riding. Thats what you call thinking about the big picture. Please let the past issues drop from silly stories, and let them learn from the past mistakes( yes I said them) and lets move on.

I think we shot the bolt completely by bad management, Kennett was a bad choice and Cooke was not ready, we had the best chance ever to go straight through, Bridger and Barker would have given more, cant say that they would have scored the points but we should have put out the strongest team. King at reserve, and Scott as a coach mentor in the back ground. But hey ho, the old boys act played it's card again. Moving on lets hope the team can shine on play off, rest assured though they will give it 110% and lets see where the cards fall. On to the future, Phil Morris as Team manage with no interferance from BSPA, he needs a clean start, time to pick a team of 8 and work with them through the season, we need some test matches for training purposes or Mini series 4 team tournaments to get the lads firing as a team not just for the week. Phil should have oppertunities to have a marketing man just to try for sponsorship for Team GB, pay the chaps right, get them engines of help. I remember when Graham Jones was involved, he was there for all working on tuning and advise and extra set of hands and a brain to suit. But most of all NO BSPA involvement, no old boys network and no blazers hanging around looking impotent yes Impotent. Give Wisser a clean sheet, and the backing with no interferance. Why did Rob Lyons Quit, Interferance from Rugby, Plain and simple. Lets get through this week and hope we can go through, it will be nice but we missed the boat last night. Comments please

Guess Eddie has been on his knees again before the old boys network. If this is what Middlo wants to pick so be it, but has made the choice for me easier.Dont want to watch, Dont need to watch and can spend my money elsewhere.

Did anyone else read that the FIM has awarded to running of Gp's to Camelot, away from BSI is this true,

Barker is an Truro Hospital having leg surgery from Friday night at Plymouth, shame as he scored 14 in Czech on Wednesday. Carried his load for this season and done it well, Top of Plymouth averages, Top of Premier league, and topped Birmingham averages as well. Look forward to an excellent 2012 Benny and Team GB as well.

do we need a brit there ?yes. but who do we think is up to it, Harris can deliver yes, but will he get a wild card it's down to friends in high places, but for the demographics a brit is needed. Tai has been there yes and says he isnt ready yet, fair and his words. Let him go through qualifyers next year and see how he goes, eventually he will want it and will show us all how good he is. Scotty, can do it but I thing there is a bad taste in his mouth and will not want to series for the year as a family man. Ricco, been there and got the shirt. Bridger not ready and perhaps not emotionally ready, could be quick but just not ready, 3 more years and he will have grown up and will be very good and or finished. Kennett, shame about the cheating it will live with him for years, Eddie has got to start again from ground floor, a true talent but been ill advised and now has to carry a cross on his back. what ever his results next year eddie will be known that he cheated, and took money from others. Barker, Ben has shown that he has grown up, still a little inconsistant but certainly can be very fast, worthy of a wild card the same as Darcy. If he was given the opportunity you know that it will be nothing other than 110% all the time, no one he is afraid of, most importantly he wears his Union Jack with pride, ( quote tatum I would pay any money to see Barker in a GP, guaranteed to ride with his heart on his sleeve and never gives up). This is what we the British Need, fans need and Speedway needs. Comments please

anyone else not getting Sky sport 2, I can get all but, just says no signal pissed off

Whatever the result, everyone knows that Benny will give 110%, doesnt care who he is racing against, Gollob or Drymyl Nikki or Crumpy, 110% and thats what we need in the camp. Middlo has made the right choice, you will never find out how deep the water is if you dont get in there. Steady has not had the best of years, same as Olly. Itwould be nice if all of them are there working behind the back ground and helping, as Lemon and Watt were, then you get team spirit. we may not get through as winner Monday but it wont be through not trying, what ever thursday will be a scrapping meeting, and one to watch. Support the brits dont knock them

So in the World of Speedway can any one say who the British representatives are this year ,any dates and names please

Sponsorship is so hard to get now adays and it is ironic that in the GP's riders have to have sponsor boards around their pit, A good presentation can make a big difference to a riders exposure along with that of his sponsors. Why is it that during the GOP's Mr TV Brandon has to do all the interviews in front if a non discript place. Is BSI saying we dont care about you or your sponsors, its us, us , us. As for the league, again nothing is done to help riders by a mention of sponsors, a little quote about some one having new backers and welcoming them to the sport etc will go a long way, but the officials seem to miss the plot. so sponsors go, like Meridien. The winter meetings need to have a big agenda and it sort your selves out , teams, tracks and officials. Question for the real supporters. Which BRITISH rider in Elite has brought in a new to Speedway sponsor, ]Major British Motor Industry supplier, and what has been done by Sky or the teams announcers to give them some mention . Guess what they will be off thankyou very much and ill be sponsoring golf or something else. Our officials dont deserve sponsors.