4thbender

Agree wholeheartedly that the continuation of the Bates management consortium is the best news for Sheffield. One question though: is there any guarantee that Thursday nights won't revert to a CL fixture night (as it used to be prior to 2019)?

Promoters have GOT to do something about the lack of fixtures. Either a singe combined Premiership/Championship league or a two-home / two-away format to give us some weekly action has to be top of the AGM agenda. Whatever the sport's woes, rationing is not the answer. Mid-October is traditionally the time when the speedway season winds down, but it already seems like an age since we had our last meeting at Owlerton.

Three "no's" from me. Sheffield looked good on paper but performed like numpties away from home. The season was ruined by Sunday afternoon racing - an experiment that I trust won't be repeated (who would ever have thought that the time of the meeting would affect the track?... but it DID!) Speedway will never recover the attraction it had in the 60's and 70's glory years and sometimes I wonder why I still bother. Another season like the last one might be the last straw for me.

Hands off Howarth.

Well, someone's got to start the new thread so it might as well be me! I think the most important and fundamental issue for Sheffield in 2020 is ownership. I get the impression from Steady's comments in today's rag that a change of heart on behalf of the owners is not out of the question. He says “Personally I’d like the current promotion to carry on. I think they’ve done a great job over the past few years and we all have common goals. There’s still so much to achieve with the Tigers." I would personally fully endorse this view and maybe if enough fans follow suit it might just be enough to encourage the present owners to take down the "for sale" sign and give it another go. We might from time to time criticise certain team decisions on this and other forums, but I still believe that the Bates' ownership is best placed to make those decisions (even if they do get it wrong occasionally!) I hope they change their mind, but what do others think?

I note that following the sale of Stoke Speedway Stadium and the end of an era at Loomer Road, the Stoke management have announced that Stoke will be relocating its 2020 fixtures to Sheffield as part of an overall planned 11 date season. Assuming Sheffield runs again in 2020 in either PL or CL, this might mean we actually see MORE speedway at Owlerton rather than the year-on-year reduction of meetings we've become accustomed to. Not sure how I feel about having two teams to support but I guess it does mean that we'll see a return to Thursday night racing in one league or another.

Last night showed the folly of afternoon racing - no problems with track drying out and far better racing as a result. Sheffield had the meeting sewn up after heat 4 and should have killed it off, but poor gating and silly mistakes let the visitors back in. Despite finishing the meeting with only three effective riders (only two of whom made any decent contribution after heat 6), Newcastle were gifted a league point. I bet they can't believe their luck.

The second - after Kyle.

Todd Kurtz is in the local press today saying he wants to be back in Sheffield's colours next season. I hope the management take note and don't make the same mistake of signing a load of untested riders - a strategy which has given Sheffield a very long tail this season.

http://www.sheffield-speedway.com/news.php?extend.2791 has some great action pictures of the 23 minutes of racing, but not a single picture of the 2 hours of track grading. The tractor man must be gutted.

Sheffield seems to have had more than its fair share of track maintenance problems this season, but can any team claim to have a more annoying tractor guy than Sheffield? I've just been to watch the Championship Riders Final (or whatever they call it now) and clearly the tractor guy has formed the opinion that we all paid our money at the turnstile in order to watch him do his stuff. The regulation grading after every four heats seems to have been cut down to every two, and the process has become a work of art in itself. He does four laps in an anti-clockwise direction followed by four clockwise and then a little encore with the water bowser. He even managed to hold up the start of heat 14 by abandoning his great big grading-scraping-thingy in the middle of the back straight, which had to be dragged away by four burly track staff. Had the referee not spotted it and halted proceedings it would have been like one of those stop-sticks the police use to deflate the tyres of toe-rag car thieves! Without a doubt the tractor guy added an hour to my grand-daughter's bedtime (she wasn't pleased either because the event finished so late that Norwood Chippy was closed and she had to forego her chip supper). Of the 3 hour duration of the event, 23 minutes was actual racing and 2 hours 37 minutes was tractor demonstrations. We are not amused.

A word about Todd Kurtz... Todd rode most of his career at Owlerton in the no. 2 position, first to Josh G in 2017 and then to Kyle in 2018. His great strength in those years was to turn the no 1's heat wins into a 5 - 1. He scored more bonus points and had fewer last places than any other rider. He showed those qualities again on Sunday: in the races he didn't win he supported his partner (Sedgmen on this occasion) to a 5 - 1 and had no last places. The thing about "second fiddles" is that they never get noticed, but Todd will go down as one of Sheffield's GREAT "second fiddles." I said on this forum in December last year it was a mistake to leave him out of the 2019 team, and so it has proven. No rider has managed to offer regular support to Danny King or Kyle and turn race wins into 5 - 1's. Todd's strengths have been woefully missed and I hope that whoever is in charge for the 2020 season (if Sheffield run again) makes sure that Todd's name is first on the team list. I said last year that Todd is a slow-burner who will have an 8 point average by the time he's 30, and on Sunday's showing he's on target to achieve that.

Thought he was banned?

I'll lay odds that the guest is 18-point maximum man from last week Sam Masters.

Should be well-rested then!

Kurtz rode like a trooper and scored 10 points for Somerset when they visited Owlerton 4 weeks ago and Sedgmen was kingpin in the Birmingham team that demolished us 117- 61 over two legs in the KO Cup in 2010. Sounds like a fair swap for one rider who's struggled all season and another who's back in the States having his shoulder mended.

Kurtz and Sedgeman in, Proctor and Nicol out. Where there's a will there's a way!

Tthought there was some rule that points limit reverted to 40 from June???

Todd Kurtz just became available after being sacked by Somerset. With Broc liable to be absent for the rest of the season, would his average allow him to fill the gap?

The ridiculous Championship fixture policy (which effectively amounts to rationing the sport) has conspired with the weather to ensure that the first three weeks of the kids' summer holidays remain speedway-free. For a sport allegedly aiming to attract more youngsters to the terraces, I would suggest the fixture policy is in need of some revision before next season.

As it happens I have a grandson who was in the training academy of a South Yorkshire football league team and gave it up completely because of the corruption and unfairness that is rife within professional football. He took up American Football and Rugby instead which he regards as "cleaner" sports. I also have a granddaughter and grandson who both play regularly in Sheffield amateur teams. Although I support all three of them whenever I can, I nevertheless wouldn't attend football league matches just to pour money into the pockets of overpaid prima donnas, sponsors and hangers-on. And if you think football violence is a thing of the past you're kidding yourself.

No, it's a football thing. Tribalism is a curse which pervades the footballing fraternity and for decades has erupted into violence on the terraces.

Presumably you've not witnessed the Battle of Bramall Lane whenever Wednesday and United meet in our great city.

One of the great joys of speedway is that you get to meet supporters from every team that visits and, whatever the result, there is no animosity. This puts our beloved sport in a league above football, where fans of different teams have to be segregated to avoid violence. Surely one of the main functions of any sport is that people from different geographies, races and cultures can meet together in mutual respect to enjoy a sporting spectacle. As soon as ignorant tribalism gets in the way of human interaction the whole purpose of sporting endeavour is lost.

Should have kept them both and forgone the King signing. If King had been riding for Redcar on Sunday and Wright for Sheffield we'd have won by 2 points!