Dave Jones

And quite intimidating that is too. A party of us were over in Bydgoszcz for a GP some time ago and we decided to drive up to Pila on the Sunday for a league match. On entry we were escorted to one of these pens and told to stay there. I think the word must have got around that some brits were in the stadium as we were invited to go to the seating area and allowed to sit alongside the club officials who gave us the "royal treatment".

And if riders were allowed to to conduct themselves in the manner that these two guys did without repercussion, you would have the same end result.

Where your argument falls flat is that there are hard and fast rules over safety guards on machinery which everyone understands. No such thing exists in speedway, the fact that two riders walked out on their team but the rest continued to complete the meeting tends to weaken the argument for the offenders , don't you think

Quite a few Poole fans struggling with this decision tonight I see.. Can't imagine why

They could be replaced by the fans who haven't been attending lately but can see the merit in the clubs stance on this matter.?

That's just how I see it, it would be nice to think all the promoters are pulling in the same direction over this and that it is a turning point for their approach to getting this sport back on its feet.

I'm surprised that given some of the stuff you post on this forum you're not seeing stars.

No I'm not joking, There needs to be some sort of discipline incorporated into the sport, you can't just have riders going around holding people to ransom. That is one of the many reasons people don't go any more, I not one for defending the promoters, heaven knows I've made my feelings on some of them very clear over the years but they do pay the wages and they are entitled to the respect of the riders they employ There is so much wrong with the administration of speedway and that's another reason for the lack of bodies on the terraces , but perhaps we can save that for another day. With regard to your comment about me approaching retirement territory, you are wrong I'm already there but it doesn't mean my brain won't function.

Wouldn't disagree about the promoters, but a big clean up is required and tails wagging the dog isn't healthy.

Well you are entitled to that opinion , but perhaps a look at the bigger picture might be a good idea.

Riders with the attitude of Holder & Batchelor are major contributors to the current state of british speedway.

I just wish that we could get these two guys and pop them on a boat to Aussie, it worked well last time it was tried. However I'm expecting to see their names appear on someone else's team sheet very soon.

Wasted effort, I'm afraid.

Holder's ban could be over before Lynn appear on track again.

Quite right that he should too, he might consider himself fortunate that it was just 28 days, given his reported behaviour.

Very Likely he's had the " mafia " whispering in his ear, hence no announcement. Not that it's so important IMO , he was out of order and has been banned for his actions .

Until the next "brown envelope" is circulating that is.

As a speedway fan your view will be seriously diminished then.

Fraud not spending much this season then. Could that be due to the lack of a big sponsorship package and a drop in attendances, or is he clearing the way for his exit from speedway? An interesting couple of months ahead i think.

Something to do with the tides turning more likely.

I think the ammunition is for shooting themselves in the foot. The Knives are reserved strictly for the opposition..

They must have an endless supply of ammunition .

A natural response from someone who supports Wolves My point was that given the available space after the alterations to the dog track, there could have been a much more "flowing " shape to the track. Just my opinion.

Probably caused by the huge explosion when the bubble burst down Wimborne Rd.

Exactly.. There was an opportunity to build a very nicely shaped circuit given that the space was completely clear inside the new dog track. A golden opportunity missed IMO.