Dave Jones

I think it's also fair to remind Shovlar & starman that The aces have been running continuously since 1928, even operating through WW2. A history that no other club operating currently can match I believe. For their part The pirates didn't get started until twenty years later (1948) and there have been gaps in their history where the club has closed down for periods. When considering greatness history is most important, it's unfair to just select a short period (as you call it the modern era ) & expect everyone to forget the rest , to justify a claim.

A little while back Skidder asked " what it all had to do with Poole 2019?" I suppose we could say it's closer to the topic than the comedy being posted by Shovlar & his shadow.

If you had enough intelligence to enable you to understand my post you wouldn't need to ask this question.

Determining the " biggest club" is surely more about history +achievements . That will put Poole way down the list particularly when compared to a club like the Aces. Form is temporary class is permanent as someone once said.

If only speedway had a few more" Barry Bishops", a promoter who understands the requirements of operating a business in the 21st century and the importance of keeping the fans onside.

I don't disagree with the person you quoted but i think we have seen from past experience that anyone who tries to implement change ( particularly a new member of the organisation) is on a hiding to nothing and will forced out before he knows what's happened. The "mafia " as I describe them don't take kindly to anyone prepared speak publicly or try to enforce any changes to their system. It would be wonderful to see someone grab hold of this sport and put it on a proper footing, but it's going to be extremely difficult IMO.

Not my intention at all. My view is that that it is controlled by a select few who are entrenched in their out of date thinking and ideas,they refuse to accept the type of changes that are required to put the sport on a better footing. A fair and transparent set of rules which apply to all would be an excellent starting point, but I'm not about to hold my breath.

Fair play to the promoter concerned, he is of course spot on. Unfortunately we've"been there " before and those that spoke up are now ex promoters. The unwritten rule at BSPA towers appears to be step out of line at your peril.

Given his declared " leanings" there's a decent chance he will be.

And the even less bright fail to see the guys failings.

May have "drained " their enthusiasm somewhat, as opposed to the track.

A route taken by many a disgruntled speedway fan i fear. Miss- Sigh -Gone.

Yes a big "whooosh" for a couple of posters I think.

They are all youngsters at the Hawthorns really, it's just that having to put up with the stuff TP & Pardew served up it's taken its toll on them.

Plus,I doubt that the supporters at Monmore got a demonstration of badminton & golf thrown in with the admission price either .

Bet he leaves little "skid marks"all over the place

mental case..!!

What a complete idiot you are, you come out attacking the Save Cov Group and one of the individuals involved and then blame it on me because I have got under your skin. I wonder sometimes which planet you live on, as now i realise exactly who you are I am reminded of some of the BS you were posting under your previous forum name. Everyone knows my thoughts on Mick Horton,I've been posting them since he moved in at Brandon, I don't deny I'm very hard on him but that's what I think. I would also remind you they are my own thoughts and i post on behalf of no one else. I also put my name at the top of every post I make and accept responsibility for everything I write. Unlike yourself it would seem.

SIMON!! now I've got it. The guy who, posting under another forum name , was put in his place very firmly by Jeff Davies right here on the BSF. He disappeared very quickly after that, gone for good we all thought. But no he was here all along posting under one of his other forum names, surprise surprise. It explains his attitude towards the Save Coventry Group as he is a confirmed "grudge carrier" . The guy is a loose cannon , can fall out with his own shadow, & gives me the impression that he has a mental disorder. It explains so much about what's been going on recently.

what a complete load of old cobblers.. You are losing the plot. If you are trying to bully me off this forum you are wasting your time. I've seen plenty of others conduct themselves as you do, particularly when there is a controversial topic on the go.Posters of your ilk are so predictable in the way they handle criticism that they give themselves away very quickly... Anyhow if you feel the need to reply with more of your garbage carry on ,I can deal with it.

Having seen some of the cards you've played in the last couple of days it's very obvious you have an intense dislike for everything that the save coventry group are trying to achieve. i can' t imagine any genuine supporter from wherever would do anything but applaud their efforts in gaining the support they have obtained in trying to reach their objective. Whatever the final outcome they will be respected and thanked by the huge majority of decent people who appreciate the time and energy that they are putting in. However it's blatantly obvious from the content of your posts that you have a major issue with anything they do, an attitude I would suggest that could only come from someone who's only desire is to see them fail, and you are so keen to protect Horton at every opportunity it's obvious that you have a connection.. In conclusion a few of my thoughts for you just so you don't forget--- As a speedway promoter Mick Horton is unfit for purpose.He has systematically destroyed the bees reputation since taking over the club, and now plays it out at the lowest level in front of one man & his dog some 20 odd miles away ( that' s when he can be bothered to open the gates). He lied to and exploited his fan base throughout his time at brandon, and no doubt continues to do so today. The fans have made it very clear they want nothing more to do with him , he is an habitual failure where running speedway is concerned and from my perspective if he went out of business tomorrow it wouldn't be any loss to anyone around speedway in general and Coventry in particular. It certainly wouldn't harm anything else that is going on presently . Perhaps you would like to have a little choke on that.

I didn't want to be too rude as they are beginning to play their cards now and I would hate to sit out a ban just when the topic is warming up

As i suggested yesterday, a couple of " plants" just here to cause as much trouble as possible, each with their own agendas.

Too subtle for you? Are you and Adonis the same person by any chance? If not it seems we have two "plants" on here defending Horton. Once all this is concluded and the operation at Leicester closes , as it surely will, i expect you two will just disappear into the ether. As is the norm.

None whatsoever, but your comment does say much more about your purpose on this forum.