jim the whipper

Amateur sport is run at the weekend to avoid conflict with work , so how is riding at kent on monday , cradley and IOW tuesday , kings lynn on wednesday and SCUNTHORPE on Friday considered to be amateur , other than to suit the argument of someone who doesn't think tracking scuntorpes team is anything less than shameful ? robbing the public , endangering the whole league , and making speedway look mickey mouse with 19-71 scorelines is shameful , How many rounds of scunthorpes amateur series are run on weekdays or tagged on to the end of PL matches ?

OK I wont post anything else , feel free to just post your view without being challenged ,

No what I did was to actually post a comment on the subject in hand instead of cherry picking an odd ocacasion and trying to score points , having to second guess every patheitic loophole someone will find in every post makes posting on the BSF hard work rather than an amusing pastime , and getting embroiled in sidetrack arguments with cretins is no lopnger my bag I' m afraid . so I'll just say , Kings Lynn did not turn up with a training school team , and no one would have been put off attending because they were the opposition . so your weak point is completlely irrelevant and wasted here .

I have no doubt that the Stags riders have not spent huge amounts on equipment , but to claim that Kyle Newman is the only draught rider to have invested heavily in his equipment (based entirely on what you heard on a tv interview ) not only demonstrates how little you actually know about speedway but is also insulting to the rest of the draught riders their parents and most natiional league riders , who have spent just as much on equipment , Kyle Newmans main advantage is his experience of riding at higher level ,2 seasons of premier league with somerset and half a season of Elite with Poole are his advantage . as for the promoters putting their hands in their pockets to provide a training Scheme, they already are , by making up the losses when Scunthorpe are the opposition .

When Scunthorpe made their late bid into the Nl this year , Most other NL teams will have assumed that having been a standalone NL club as well as a multi level club , that Scunthorpe would have known what level of teambuilding would be expected and tried to field a competitive team and also welcomed the extra competition /fixtures as a boost to the National league and all the clubs in it , If they were made aware of the intention to run a team of raw novices , I doubt Scunthorpe would have received the open arms welcome and votes from the other clubs that they did , It's all very well messrs Godfrey and Ford feathering their nest for the future , but it's hardly fair that it should be done at the expense of the other national league clubs and their supporters , I can easily imagine the attitude of Godfrey if another team had brought a training school standard team to try and attract the paying public when Scunthorpe were standalone NL , Now that the boot is on the other it's a different story . supporters of this policy complaining about riders such as James Cockle being professional NL riders and wanting the points limit dropped to level the playing field to amateur level are simply taking a selfish view , First off , in the last few years the national league itself has become more professional and if riders are happy to compete at the top level of that league while maintaining a income from working as well good for them , secondly Dudley, Mildenahall , Stoke and Buxton Supporters dont see the national league as some sort of benevolent training scheme , NL is the level that their clubs can afford to race at and they support their teams in the same way as any supporter of premier and Elite league speedway , they pay their money to see competitive meetings and want to see their teams succeed in whatever competions they enter . If scunthorpe are so keen to give novices their chance in a team , then organise some full meetings against riders of their level, from the southern track and the dragons

So lets make all the standalones go into the premier league in 2015 ,.not exactly the best idea I have ever heard , Since Mildenhall , Stoke and Buxton have all been there and cannot make it pay so that will see them 3 close , Dudley cant use Monmore green for Premier league so it's goodbye to them , The criteria for a team place at Scunthorpe this year was how much money the riders had spent taking part in practises and the winter series at Scunthorpe ,(not my words by the way , the words of Richard Hollingworth on the Scunthorpe website ) So in 2015 the new 6 team national league will be built to strength of the weakest link , and who exactly do you think is going to want to pay £10-12 to watch this spectacle ? . I wont bother myself nor can I imagine will a lot of others , so I would suggest the riders who have been given team places on the strength of how many admission tickets they have collected better Improve rapidly during 2015 and move into premier league because in 2016 there will be no National league

Holder , Ward, Batchelor N.Morris, Branford,

The Elite league and premier league wont see any financial benefit but one thing for sure, Gospeed will ,, you can bet on that !! not sure it would be very good to watch either . the only reason most people would be watching would be to see the result . so more than likely a single camera operation with little or no production value , it would not be like watching a sky sports match .

sorry forgot to add the link to the fairy story

He has also employed the services of Alastair Darling to write his press releases for him , What is it they say ? dont believe everything you read http://www.speedwaygb.co/news.php?extend.23698

Agree , I would like to see Tai win it , and I think he has as good a chance . but it has to be won fairly or it's a hollow victory ,

What clues would they be Bryn ? the Australian Flag tattoed between his shoulder blades , helping the Aussies at WTC while being part of team GB , referring in conversations to Perth being "Home" and where he will return when he stops riding , finding the Time each winter to return "home" for a short Break before returning to England to to his summer job. your head could well be shaking but it's more likely to be Parkinsons disease than disbelief if you go around with open eyes ears and mind .

Is this the same Tai Woffinden who claims to be British ?

This posting from the Not too well thread , Alf Weedon passed away at 5pm UK time on Sunday the 19th January. I thought the passing of a great charachter deserved a thread of it's own where those who wish to can leave their condolences ,.

Yes S.S I have been misled , my eyes are not what they used to be , so I assume the 20 or so amateur meetings I have attended over the last few years were the exceptions rather than the rule ,

Absolutuely , no more to be said on the subject the Omniscience has spoken

Appalling is the best description , after 30 races there is a blue groove about 8 feet wide ,outside that is a pile of dry dust and marbles further out is a pile of damp shale about 1 foot deep , any one brave or foolhardy enough to move past the blue groove will either hit the dust/marbles and start heading for the gripppy bit which will then slam them straight into the fence , or slide off and wind up in the airbags , another good description would be downright dangerous as can be borne out by the amount of riders who get hurt in the latter parts of these meetings

Good job Holder won't be riding at Stoke then , His favourite overtake manouvre is to barge up the inside of riders with both wheels on the grass

The sole intent of normal business is to make cash profit , IOW speedway Ltd , seems to have been set up purely to finance speedway racing at smallbrook , so the other income streams are not carrying a failing part of the business , they are ensuriing the continuation of the reason the business was started

yes . i saw all the kevlar suits on the grid for the last moto GP , and at the Isle of Man , so they must be the best thing for protection I suppose .and of course universal acclaim from sidecar crews who have had accidents and had to put them to the test also reinforces your argument .... not , of course all the accolades are for the GTS suit ,which is totally different to speedway polyesters in content as well

Speedway kevlar is hardly kevlar at all , one manufacturer of Polyester suits Actually brags that at 6% their suits have the highest Kevlar content !!, in any other industry they would have to call them Polyester suits , For all the protection Polyester brings you might as well be riding in a cheap set of pyjamas from ASDA , you are right about one thing though , Polyester was brought in because it can because its easy to decorate , with a computer printer and heat press , far easier to sew than leather , and the raw material is much cheaper than leather . shame this cannot be reflected in the end price but this is speedway and someone has to be making money out of the people putting on the show, suit manufactururers could not care less for rider safety they are only interested in easy money

The occupants of the new housing are on the back foot at the moment as the speedway was there first , That is why some speedway needs to be run at the showground in 2014 , 1 season of no speedway and that will be it forever because a lapse in use will mean the nimbies are in the driving seat and that will be Game over for speedway at EOES

It would be interesting to hear from someone "In the know " a few details regarding , planning permission. were there any complaints throughout the year that could pose a possible threat to the future , if not is there any hope , having shown that speedway is not as noisy as some may have feared of some of the severe resrictions being relaxed a little?,

Don't forget to leave room for Tom Braddock in your Team building ,

one meeting per month outside _march to october is permitted . if a more important meeting does not require a november fixture , maybe Stoke Vs Kings 3/11/ 2013 could be arranged