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Bewley is a big loss and I can't see our reserves scoring many. We can still do it if both Bjerre's score well, Tungate isn't affected by his injuries and Cook has a really good night but the odds are now in Rye House's favour.

Some might be pleased if Poole lose out on 4th place, not me of course.

Not really, it was the BSPA who announced Bjerre as the guest. Belle Vue have only ever said Wright. Worral is a bigger loss to us than Harris is to Rye House but not many, if any, Aces fans moaning on here. Perhaps we are more used to the shambles that is the Premier League and just accept it. Even more ridiculous in a way because Worrall is our asset. Just hoping for some good close racing and that Tungate and Bewley aren't affected by their injuries. We need for Fricke to be back soon so he can be at his best for the play offs.

If Peterborough is off then hopefully Worrall and Harris will ride. I'm sure supporters of both teams would prefer to see their own riders. Could go either way tonight. Rye doing exceptionally well and Aces with question marks over Kenneth Bjerre's recent poor performances, Tungate who had two falls in Sweden last night, he says he is feeling sh*t but hoping to be OK for tonight and Bewley who has a groin injury. If our guest is now Lasse Bjerre, he was tremendous for Leicester on their recent visit so let's hope he can repeat that performance as we need the top 4 to do well to get a decent score from Fricke's rides. I'm an optimist so Bjerre's new engines will see him back to his best, Tungate and Bewley will not suffer any ill affects from their injuries and whichever guest we have, Wright or Bjerre will cover Worrall's usual score or, even better, Worral will ride. 48-41 to the Aces.

If Wright can repeat his last performance at the NSS he will be an adequate replacement for Worrall. There were rumours Fricke might be back tomorrow but unfortunately unfounded and r/r doesn't cover for him. There are also question marks over Bjerre, going to have his own engines back for this meeting, so we shall see if that was the problem and Bewley, who damaged his groin and couldn't move his left leg when he withdrew from the Colts match yesterday. With Rye House no doubt full of confidence we shall need Bjerre and Bewley to be at their best, if they are then we should be able to win. I'm not sure it helps to know that Poole fans will be hoping we do. I would hope that if Peterborough is called off both Worrall and Harris will take their places in this meeting. I would hope that Wright has been booked on that understanding.

Taken from the Belle Vue website; BELLE VUE V RYE HOUSE - 7:30PM - WEDNESDAY AUGUST 30 Belle Vue ‘Rentruck’ Aces Kenneth Bjerre, Max Fricke R/R, Charles Wright (G), Rohan Tungate, Craig Cook ©, Dan Bewley, Jack Smith; TM: Mark Lemon Rye House ‘BMR’ Rockets Chris Harris R/R, Ben Barker, Ricky Wells, Krzysztof Kasprzak, Scott Nicholls ©, Stuart Robson, Ben Morley; TM: Peter Schroeck

Steve, interesting point about emojis and it not appearing. I generally use an android tablet. Whenever I include an emoji it never appears when I submit the post but I discovered that if I edit the post and include the emoji again it then does appear in the post viewed on my tablet and it is there if I look at the post on my android phone. I am now wondering if anyone else has this problem and if the emoji is only visible to me. I have added one to the end of this post. 🤔

Apparently, Lunna taken to hospital with wrist and arm pain, Morris not taken to hospital, no mention of any injuries but was replaced in his next race.

I know it was confusing my saying on the Swindon v Wolves thread that Worrall, who is replacing Howarth at Swindon, would be an improvement on Howarth. I really should have made clear that I meant it would be an improvement for Wolves at Swindon.

Was referring to one group of Cradley fans only last night. The rest had respect for each others teams. My comment referred to your comments about Aces fans which seemed to put them all in the same category save for Youngy. Presumably, you did notice the emoji though, although strangely it doesn't appear in your quote of my post.

Was I at the same meeting. I was stood with a group of Aces supporters and lots of Wolves and Cradley fans. No sign of any trouble, fans of all clubs, whilst obviously favouring their own team, were happy to chat with each other and applaud the efforts of opposing riders. I thought it was discriminatory to generalise about any group or race of people. 😂

70, do people bother to celebrate that! It's our 90th year so we're going for super power packed. That's if we can remember what we're celebrating.

Yes I did but going off last night he's better at Wolves as well. I doubt you'll find many Swindon supporters who don't think Worrall makes you stronger.

Worrall is an improvement on Howarth and Swindon are going to be weaker at reserve but should still be a comfortable win for the Robins.

I don't know but some have said it was Colin Pratt.

According to Jack Smith on Facebook Dan has "pulled his groin and couldn't move his leg" I said previously, we will struggle if Dan isn't fit to ride tomorrow against Rye House, nobody on a similar average to adequately replace him and whoever it is or, Smith, would also have to take one of Fricke's rides. I bet Poole fans will be hoping Dan will be ok.

I don't think it had anything to do with Bewley's injury but there were problems with bends 3 and 4 in the earlier part of the meeting. Masters and Riss amongst others had problems getting round.

Yes he was. He got injured in heat 8 passing Greaves when he almost fell. He was seen by the medics and was limping heavily in the pits, it looked like a groin or leg injury. He missed his next two rides but then came out to replace Smith in heat 14. He passed Riss to get a point in that race but was obviously in pain after the race and withdrew from the Colts meeting against Cradley. We just have to hope he will be OK for Wednesday, he is irreplaceable at the NSS. Wolves deserved their win but we probably would have got a point if Bewley had been able to take all of his rides. Lindgren was outstanding although Cook was right with him throughout heat 15. Bjerre apart, who was struggling on borrowed equipment, this was an encouraging performance from the Aces top 4 and Bewley. Some are writing us off but if Fricke returns and Bjerre's recent poor performance is down to machinery we might not win the final but we certainly won't be a pushover for anyone.

Not really, he did try to get it called off when there was no reason to do so within the rules but at that point the referee was in control and he had no authority. The referee, rightly, would not agree to act contrary to the rules. It is a slippery slope once referees, or anyone with authority agree to do so. We might all agree that it would have been common sense to call it off but who is responsible for the rules as currently drafted, those same people who wanted them to be ignored. Perhaps if another broken promise had been kept, to completely redraft the rule book last winter, somebody might just have thought it would be necessary to include a rule to cover the minimum number of riders needed to enable a meeting to start. I doubt it but you never know. The idea of drafting rules is that you consider all possibilities and then design the rules to deal with them.

We could struggle if Bjerre is still having problems with his borrowed engine. We can't afford for any of our top four to have an off night when using r/r. I hope the trip from Poole isn't too problematic. I thought they might have rushed that meeting through but obviously not.

Congratulations to Poole. Bjerre not having his own engines and only scoring 3 and getting only 3 from Fricke's rides certainly cost us. Lahti at reserve may just have come in time to save Poole from losing out on the play offs.

It was Mark Lemon who said it at one of the post meeting press conferences. He said that it was ridiculous but we had to accept it. He also said that the fixtures generally were a mess this year but that the present promotion had no say having only taken control 6 weeks before the season started. He said things have to change and that they will certainly have their say this year.

Not being able to get off the bike would make life difficult for those riders who are on the short side. Bjerre, Tungate and Bewley would find their bikes weighed down with spiders they wouldn't be able to stamp on.

I don't get this choked. If Poole lose, which I don't think they will if Lahti does well at reserve, why can't they just have lost to the better team on the day like everyone else. As for favourites to finish 4th. At the moment Rye House are +3 and Poole +1 when you look at points lost at home versus points gained away so arguably Rye are favourites but realistically not much in it.

Except that Bewley and Smith are making the same journey.