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I would much prefer a home meeting almost every week. However, this year, with only 8 teams in the top league, we have only had 14 home league matches plus KO Cup and play offs, so not a lot of difference in total and seeing each visiting team only once might make casual fans more inclined to attend.

I thought it was awful both live and on TV but put it down to the track conditions caused mainly by the weather.

It can be but can also be multicellular. Fancy not knowing that Anyway it doesn't matter Starman is talking about organisums. He obviously knows more than either of us. I've tried looking it up but it's not even mentioned anywhere on the internet. I bet his IQ is off the scale.

Forecast from Met Office now looking worse, heavy rain from 18.00 until the early hours of Thursday. As well as the rider commitments detailed already, Fricke, Bjerre, Worrall and Lindgren are riding in the Czech Golden Helmet on Sunday and Bewley and Smith, if fit, in the Golden Ribbon meeting on Saturday. It's looking almost impossible to rearrange before Monday if it doesn't go ahead tonight.

I've never had one of these organisums, are they living organisums, sounds nasty.

I can confidently say that having had a trick track for almost 30 years I don't think you'll find many Aces fans wanting to go back.

Arr, once a pirate always a pirate.

Bewley withdrawn from Glasgow meeting tonight, let's hope it's just sensible resting after racing every day since last Thursday. He had said he was finding it difficult racing so much after his return from injury and almost withdrew from the NL Riders meeting on Sunday.

We are certainly not hot favourites. Much will depend on Schlein, who has had good meetings at the NSS, British Final and bad, Wolves last visit, Howarth and Masters, who like Schlein can blow hot and cold at Belle Vue. Masters will find it easier to cope with his injury on the wide open spaces of the NSS than at Monmore with its tight turns. If they can all manage decent scores including r/r rides Wolves with their 13 point lead will win on aggregate. Our hope has to be that our heat leaders can beat everyone apart from Lindgren and keep his score down to about 13/15'from 6 rides. Tungate can also be excellent at the NSS and enable us to get some 5-1's whereas Worrall has struggled at home recently so needs to up his game. Bewley can be our trump card at reserve but will need to be as I can't see Shuttleworth scoring many, if any, points. It's going to be a big ask but if everything goes our way we can do it.

I think that is exactly what happened. I said as much to a Wolves supporter next to me after seeing it replayed on the big screen. We had an interesting but ultimately friendly exchange of views. Just so unfortunate that the crash resulted in Thorsell's injury.

Firstly, very sorry to hear that Thorsell has broken vertebrae in his lower back and wish him a complete and speedy recovery. I was there last night and have now watched it back on TV. With so many falls, was it 10, there was clearly a problem with track. Cook, Tungate and Worrall have shown in the past that they can perform well at Monmore but last night all 3 had at least one fall.I can't bring to mind a meeting anywhere in the recent past with that number fallers. Monmore is usually better prepared but last night it wasn't but probably because of the problems caused by the weather. Having said that, Wolves deserved their victory. Lindgren showed again his mastery of the circuit and Schlein did exceptionally well. Worrall and Fricke rode well for the Aces. It is going to be difficult to overcome a 13 point lead but not impossible. [quite name=stevebrum" post="3036458" timestamp="1506374612]Seems the Aces are under instruction to take out as many Wolves riders as possible. Shocking riding from some of them. With Thorssell out its game over. Steve, I appreciate this was probably a heat of the moment comment but you need to apologise and withdraw it. Very nice of Adams to say he hopes that we win it if we get through to the final.

A remarkable career and a record to be proud of.PK has been loyal to British Speedway and Wolverhampton in particular over many years and was a rider I always looked forward to watching. I hope he enjoys whatever he does next and that we still see him involved in the sport in some capacity.

That's a reasonable assessment. Smith was showing a marked improvement before his injury. I doubt he would have scored much, if anything, at Monmore but he is better than Shuttleworth so may have picked up an odd point that Rob won't. At the NSS Smith could easily have scored at least 3 whereas Rob may not score any. However, we are where we are, Fricke is back and on form and Bewley can be a match winner. Let's hope for two brilliant meetings and may the best team win.

Cement dust and a very wet track doesn't sound like a good idea, especially when the bikes have turned it over a few times. Sounds like a fun way to mix cement though but what would I know.

I can't see anything in the rules that prevents it. Arguably, when BWD was fit, proven by his intention to ride for Peterborough before it was postponed, a guest shouldn't have been allowed. In fact wasn't the guest allowed on the basis of his unavailability because Peterborough had preference, nothing to do with injury. I can't bring a particular instance to mind but know there have been examples where a guest has been replaced by the unavailable rider when he unexpectedly became available.

Wolves have a huge home track advantage and riders who do well at the NSS. I think we will win overall but it's going to be close. I'll be happy if we lose the first leg by less than 10, delighted if we win but it's going to take an exceptional performance to do that.

As I said in my post that you quoted "he may have a terrible night". Roscoe explained before the meeting why he had picked him despite his recent poor performance at the NSS, because he was the best of what was available. Even when BWD became available Roscoe preferred THJ and who knows that BWD would have scored more. At least it puts me and others in the same"knowledgeable" category as Roscoe, although I'm not sure that's a compliment.

Far from the best racing this year at the NSS but after the amount of rain that fell the track staff deserve a lot of credit for producing a track that was safe and that did produce a few decent races. Despite the conditions it was an exciting match as slowly but surely the Aces clawed back what became a 15 point deficit. Bewley was brilliant, dropping just one point to the opposition, Cook put in an excellent performance and everyone else gave 100%. Andersen was unhappy with his performance but he was worth more than his 5 points and it was good to see him encouraging his temporary team mates and offering advice. Swindon, Ellis and Morris apart were poor. Doyle would have made a difference but so would Fricke and let's not forget our misfortunes in the away leg. Ellis rode exceptionally well, he was fast and determined, the best I have seen him ride. Onwards to the final, it will be a close encounter if it's against Wolves, which looks very likely at the moment.

Previously it's happened both ways. When a rider being replaced by a guest has become available the guest has still raced and on other occasionsthe guest has been replaced by the rider he was guesting for. If THJ is riding it means that Swindon think they have a stronger team with him than with BWD. Nothing like feeling wanted and valued.

I think you misunderstood. SS was suggesting the two guests tonight might get practice for Poole in the play off final. My point was they won't be eligible to ride as guests for the teams in the final.

Now we'll see whether Swindon think THJ makes them stronger. He was fit enough to ride for Peterborough so I can't see any fitness problem.

I think you'll find they do. It's just taken a long time for them to understand that it's a problem.

I thought riders from other play off teams couldn't ride as guests.

Nobody can resist an opportunity to ride at the NSS but it's upsetting to see their disappointment when told we can't offer then a team place next year.

Good to see Dan Bewley managing 5 rides last night although his score indicates he needs a few more meetings to get back to race fitness. I hope he isn't feeling any ill affects today. Hopefully riding tonight and at the weekend will see him getting closer to being 100% for next week. Apparently Fricke is feeling battered and bruised after his crash in Sweden last night, it looked a bad one but fortunately it seems that neither he or AJ are suffering anything too serious. We'll have to hope that Max is also fully recovered by Monday.