BWitcher

Clearly you want more false results and less credibility. Pretty much shoots your entire argument down in flames.

I think it's you that doesn't get it. It's been this way the entire time I have been watching the sport, since early 80's.

So you wouldn't go if it was free. You don't watch it on TV. Yet you feel you can offer opinions on the current product. Hilarious.

Sounds about right for an eight team league with Heats 13 and 15 and no bonus pts in the averages.

Some folks seem to be acting as if this is something new!

It all starts to merge together after a while, I'm rapidly reaching that point now too!

How dare you be so disrespectful. Can you do any better? They risk their lives for your entertainment.

Quite a regular thing, especially after the move to 15 heats. Cradley in the Hancock Hamill days could be 10pts down going into Heat 13.. 5-1.. double tac sub 5-1 and then 5-1 again. Match won.

Ok, forget the much. They are not being dumbed down at all. The league will be stronger.

They're not being dumbed down much this year, if anything at all.

I don't envisage that being much of an issue. The bigger risk is he has never even ridden at heat leader for any prolonged spell. His average is based upon riding at No 4 and is quite inflated as a result. Next year should have been the year he transitioned to No 2 heat leader.. throwing him in at No 1 is a big ask, especially if the team he is in is struggling.

Exactly, it would be a major risk given he achieved it riding at No 4. Next year should have been the year Jacob moved to 2nd heat leader and hopefully adapted to that rule.

Only by fools. Signing a No 1 based upon an average achieved at No 4 is risky in the extreme. Ah the old myth. Yep, racing was much closer when Hans Nielsen was racing David Haynes back in the late 80's. Big difference between riding at no 4 and at no 1. Making that step up AND changing track would be a gamble for teams taking him on.

Extremely unlikely but a top three of Lindgren, Pawlicki and Woffinden would take some stopping. Throw in Howarth and it leaves 12pts for the remaining three. Greaves at 7 and it's about 9.5pts for two riders.

Tai rode in six league meetings.

Ah, if TNT is saying he's over 8, 95% chance he isn't

7.34 I think was the figure for Piotr.

I think Tai is over 8. Piotr Pawlicki isn't though. If Fred wants to return a top three of Lindgren, Masters and Pawlicki is very strong.

As much as Wolves will be able to track a strong side the same principle applies here. Freddie Lindgren and Jacob Thorssell have never ridden for another club in the UK and have no desire to do so.

Of course they did. Safe in the knowledge that the bottom four would pass the motion. Just as they have done in the past. Little doubt Ford or one of his cohorts will have had a word in the ear of one of those lower teams and planted the seed. We've seen it too many times before. The main team it seems to screw though is Swindon.. Wolves and Belle Vue shouldn't have much of an issue, especially if Wolves can tempt Piotr Pawlicki back. Top three of Lindgren, Masters and Pawlicki, combined with the old tac sub rule would be very strong. If Wolves were stupid enough to let Pawlicki join Poole... that changes things.

Some really seem to have missed the most important reason for fixed race nights.. even though it solves the issue they've been complaining about the most!

Sorry, didn't really phrase that well, I see what you mean. I'm sure Doyle would work out at quite a bit more than 12 though.

Fantastic rule for Poole, who can keep Kurtz as their one over 8 and sign whomever they choose from a host of under 8's who will be far stronger than their average, whilst ensuring that their main rivals are likely to be weakened from their ideal line-ups. So easy for them as the lackeys in the league will think they are getting something that will benefit them.

Pretty sure the rule means 1 over 8 on the lower league averages. Riders 'dropping down' would be converted.

Yep.. looks like one of those two plus Masters and Schlein.