BWitcher

Further to the rule I quoted above the very next paragraph states "Injuries. Exclusions from competing due to injury will be a factor that is taken into account when applying the requirements both in initial applications and extensions. Clubs should submit supportive medical evidence in such cases, stipulating the period of injury and the total number of meetings the rider has missed."

Indeed it could, however the average of his scored from the other three rounds would have seen him in a comfortable 3rd place. Far from a bold statement. They are telling lies. The UKVI confirmed that Becker met the criteria for a discretionary endorsement, so the rejection of his application was nothing to do with them as the BSPA are claiming. As in my post above their reasoning makes absolutely no sense either.. rejecting an application for a discretionary endorsement because he doesn't fit the regulations for an automatic endorsement? Just think about it for a moment and it will dawn on you. Again, I have no qualms with the BSPA rejecting his application, however they should have the balls to give the reason why.

See my post, it helps when someone posts the full rules, not just a snippet they feel proves their case. The BSPA have the right to reject a discretionary endorsement and are required to give full reasons for doing so. They haven't done that, they've lied by saying he doesn't fit the criteria. If he fitted the criteria they wouldn't be asking for a discretionary endorsement in the first place!!

Conveniently missing out the salient part there Lucifer whereby it states: "The BSPA will consider applications for discretionary endorsements for riders who do not meet the above requirements on an individual discretionary basis. Decisions will be made by the BSPA Management Committee who will consider written applications from the club and/or rider concerned. The Management Committee will give written reasons for their decision. Factors to be taken into consideration will be: Whether the riders record in speedway has been at the highest level and they will contribute significantly to the development of the sport. Whether exceptional factors prevented the rider from meeting the aforementioned endorsement requirements" Luke Becker missed the 2nd round of a 4 round series in the US Championships due to injury. He would only have needed 5pts to have finished in the top 4 and meet the requirements so clearly was an exceptional factor. The UKVI have already stated he meets the criteria for a discretionary endorsement so the BSPA statement on the issue is quite simply an out and out lie.

You are comparing the end of last season I assume? That's a false comparison if so.

That's my view as well. Actually, not a view, it just is!

It's a good point when you refer to the 'end of last season'. The league is certainly stronger than at the start of last season, not quite so much compared to the end of last year.

Ah apologies, misread it amongst the nonsense being spouted about the weaker league. Wolves are weaker, that's a natural thing when a team is successful, however it's not as simple as saying we've lost and replaced those riders. Thorssell and Howarth are both much better riders this year than last. You could say Greaves is better too. Also, let's not forget, we didn't start 2017 with Riss, or indeed Schlein. So the real comparison is Lindgren, Skornicki and Clegg out. Rory Schein, Cameron Heeps and Ashley Morris in. Still weaker, but no much as the original comparison.

So if all teams are built to 42pts, you don't think they would be stronger than if all teams are built to 40pts? The reality is, the league is stronger this year and quite a bit stronger if Iversen ends up at Kings Lynn. There is simply not an argument to say otherwise.

Nurse!

Never mind Ivan Mauger, it casts doubt over whether he would ever have won a single senior World Title. Even without that issue there are absolutely no guarantees. Let's not forget Emil Sayfutdinov was described as an absolute certainty to win World Titles too.. he may still win one or more, but he's not opened his account yet for varying reasons.

I've posted about it in the Wolves thread, try and move it over there

For the benefit of Stevebrum who is polluting the Belle Vue thread with his jibberish. Jacob Thorssell achieved his average riding at a second string position last year, No 4. That is a lot easier that riding at 5. It's not a debate, it's not up for 'opinion', it's just reality.

You're clearly living in some alternate world.

Nobody has ever said that. What is being said is riding at 2 or 4 is a hell of a lot easier than riding at 5 and will make a significant difference to your average.

Steve, kindly just shut up and stop being a ****. You must be the only speedway fan on the planet who doesn't grasp that no 4 is a far easier position than no 5 but as always you will keep arguing and make yourself look a fool. Leave you to it.

Fair enough, not seen this week's.

Steve, this is a Belle Vue thread, leave the nonsense for elsewhere. Positions 1 & 5 are the hardest positions, i.e. heat leader roles, 2,3 &4 are second string roles in terms of opponents faced. That's reality. Why would I be telling you he didn't finish 2nd in the averages when he did? Whether he was the 2nd best rider though is another argument.

He wasn't wrong. As regards the signing of Cook, can't for the life of me think of any reason why Belle Vue wouldn't want to sign him. He is passionate and puts his heart and soul into racing for the club. The kind of rider you LOVE to have in your side. He may not make a successful GP rider (then again he might) but the sport would be in a better place if there were more Craig Cooks in it.

What are you wittering on about? He rode as a second string. No 4 is a second string position. Second heat leader would be riding at No 5 and having Heat 13 every week. Sam Masters rode there.

Significant difference there, have a think.

Can't speak for Bjerre but highly likely Lindgren wouldn't be interested in riding for another team in the UK.

Irrelevant. That has nothing to do with the ability of the riders. It's to do with size of the league, heat formats and bonus pts. Case in point, the top division in Poland, the strongest league there has ever been, it wouldn't come close to your criteria.

Yes, but the post I was replying too was saying they should stick to the nights and Championship should have the Monday. Clearly they've discussed and decided it's beneficial for Premiership to have the Friday and Championship the Monday.

If they stuck to it, Championship wouldn't have Easter Monday would they.