BWitcher

Jakobsen has to go.

Nope. This could be the break Poole needed.

Possibly, but there's an argument to say they had the wrong setup in the first 4-5 heats so the gate toss has actually helped them in the 2nd half of the meeting. Had they been on 1-3 and missing starts it would have been big trouble when Poole got them. We'll never know

Completely incorrect. Tai was only able to have that mindset as he had done the work in earlier rounds, ALL of which count. There are many riders who were lucky to win World Titles over the years, not because they weren't the best rider in the world, or close too, but quite simply because in a one off final luck can play a major part. Exclusions for and against, machine failures, other riders falling causing re-runs, meeting riders at the right time of the meeting compared to others and many more factors could play a big part. Of course, that was all part of the 'excitement' and 'tension' on the night and why we ALL remember the World Finals so fondly. You had to be good enough to get yourself in the position, but often then just needed that bit of luck to get you over the line. Edited: To clarify, being 'lucky' to win the World Final doesn't mean you weren't the best rider or that it wasn't deserved.. it's just a reality, you very often needed that slice of luck.

I must admit I didn't expect this fightback and totally under estimated Kings Lynn.

Correct. Don't bite.

You're losing your touch, lack of bites tonight.

Hmmm likely all 4 but was there any room for Riss to get round the outside then?

I'm here to discuss Poole v Kings Lynn, a match that I am watching and discuss the sport I enjoy to watch. For some unknown reason you spend your time on a forum of a sport you consistently say you have no interest in. Strange, strange individual.

Once again, making something up to try and justify a failed argument.

Pathetic. Just here to whinge then. A lot of credit has to be given to Kings Lynn, they didn't give up and have come battling back.

You've said repeatedly you don't even watch.. so what are you even doing commenting?

Better from Kings Lynn.

Worst Grand Final ever?

Did anybody know Poole were bottom of the league in July? Wonder if Pearson will mention it....

Never ever ceases to amaze me how stupid riders can be. Do they or a team manager not watch races? After seeing Lambert get passed easily in Heat 1 when he moved off the inside, Palm Toft went and did exactly the same thing. There is one line. Get on the inside and stay there at this stage. That's 4 pts they've cost themselves already.

I'll take the "Speedway loses even more fans" after another rule breaking fiasco with Poole centre stage. Ah, too late, bookies have closed the book on that one and paid out already.

Old fossil, it's a term used to describe those stuck in the past. I wasn't even referring to that, I was referring to once again you reverting to not many people having heard of Woffinden etc. Irrelevant.

And once again unable to refute reality you blabber on about something completely irrelevant.

I haven't said any opinion of what 'might' have happened. It is you that is saying what might have happened. I am stating what did happen. What happened is Woffinden knew the rules of the GP and Woffinden won the GP. You are claiming what 'might' have happened in a different competition with different rules. Yet again you have to make something up to try and justify your non existent argument.

It's going on a bit because the same old fossils can't grasp basic things. The standard of speedway riders today is higher than of the 70's. Massively so. That's the case across all sports, not just speedway. Everything is always improving, athletes learn from others and build on it. Where some get their knickers in a twist is believing that by saying that you are denegrating riders of the past.. far from it. That is why you can only compare rider's achievements in their own era's and how good they were against their peers.

Once again.. opinions are fine, but when they are backed up by something that is wrong.. that renders it pretty worthless. You are correct that it is impossible to compare precisely due to all the differences. Yet despite that we keep hearing the argument put forward that today's riders aren't as good. There is zero evidence to support that argument and indeed all available evidence says the opposite. Some take that as an insult or an attempt to belittle riders in the past for some unknown reason. It isn't and never will be the case.

What happened on Saturday destroyed your argument. Woffinden won the GP. He knew the rules and what was required and won it. End of story. Everything else is supposition on your part. I understand, it's difficult for you. Every piece of available factual evidence is against you so you have to get creative.. It's tough. One day you'll just realise you're wrong and can move on.

This is true. The key difference doesn't lie in their early years as many riders with talent can reach a certain point.. it's what happens after that. In the modern era you have to dedicate yourself and be a lot more organised than in the past when your natural talent could get you further. That said, those at the VERY top did go that extra mile for their era, hence why they were at the top, especially from Mauger onwards.

You haven't provided a single fact to hold up the anti argument. Saturday night was not a World Final. The World Champion was not decided by the first five races on Saturday night. The winner of the GP was not decided by the winner of the first five races on Saturday night. As such your 'comparison' is irrelevant.