BWitcher

An opinion with nothing behind it but bias...i.e. meaningless. At times Lee may have been better, but overall he simply was not. A career is judged over many years and the achievements there within. On that Lee threw it all away.

Eloquently put. I saw Lee live several times, he was absolutely awful. As apparently that's all that matters in your world it doesn't stand him in good stead.

Cook was riding on the most dangerous machine known to man. Only the Marvel Avenger marshal could have stopped him.

I was quite concerned for a passing farmer on his tractor outside the stadium.. Imagine if Cook had made it out to public roads!

Hence Sidney...

Lee was massively inferior to Woffinden. MASSIVELY. Total nut job who threw away all that potential. There's no opinion involved, we're discussing facts. Lee threw it all away.

Nah, he's been a top dog in a much much tougher one. Both the Polish and Swedish leagues have been stronger.. a LOT stronger than the old BL ever was.

I am right. Nobody was in any danger whatsoever at the time the marshall decided to step into Craig Cook.. contrary to what was initially reported on here. That is my point. We all know the Glasgow riders were wrong to initially push off during the introduction.

He'd have wiped the floor with that collection of perennial bottlers and loose cannons He doesn't compete against part timers with a bike strapped to the back of their car. The sport of speedway has never been more professional at the highest level. The rest of the world has moved on massively, GB hasn't... Tai excepted.

So irrelevant. Many clubs have children/pensioners etc on the centre green for full races, with four riders, racing at full speed for four laps.. not tootling round on a parade lap.

Yes, it was him, sprinted to the bend to get involved. I also blame the St Johns and the track doctor.

Either way they are absolutely nowhere near when any of this took place and are utterly irrelevant. I did ask about the pit gate as it appears that is where he is headed, but I didn't see a reply, thanks for pointing it out.

Ah so the start marshal was pointing for Cook to head back towards the kids and the pensioners. All makes sense now.

I must have missed all those kids and pensioners standing at the pit gate where he was riding to. Were they airbrushed out of the video?

Isle of Wight. The most praised team in the country.. I'm sorry, that says it all.

Wolves handed it to Swindon by being dumb enough to get a 4-2 in Heat 11. Allowing Doyle to replace Vissing in the next turned the match. Take a 3-3, keep a 4pt lead and put a lot more pressure on Musielak. Normally I'm not in favor of such a thing and advocate getting pts on the board, but in this case, it was just too obvious.

The only laughable thing was your post. Trying to defend it is even more laughable. "Don't ride towards the pit gate Craig, I know it's about 5 yards away and nothing is there but trust me, there's an invisible rider prone who you might run over". As stated in over 40 years of speedway and hundreds and hundreds of meetings I have never ever seen riders just 'stop'. They slow down and ride slowly by whatever the incident is and back to the pit gate, unless they are pulling up to check on the welfare of said rider.

You realise you don't have to read? Comments like this are utter nonsense.

Disagree, part of what the sport is lacking. Whip up a cracking atmosphere. Isn't it time the sport realised the 'family sport' tagline doesn't work? I don't mean all out brawls and violence but simply drop the 'family sport' and concentrate on the thrills, spills, tensions, bit of aggro etc.

It is Paul Dugard who confronts Cook, but in other footage Martin Dugard is shown to throw a seemingly unprovoked full on headbutt at a Glasgow rider. No doubt, no shoulder barge, just a vicious attempt at a headbutt. Again at a point where things had calmed.

You're right, it's terrible to see page after page of discussion on a discussion forum. Much better to see the forum continue to slowly wither away. I wonder if you apply the same analogy to the sport itself and complain about fans entering meetings? Perhaps there should be a five minute time limit for them to get in.. anyone arriving before and after, sorry, no go. We wouldn't want too many watching the same stuff now would we.

Where has this nonsense come from? I have NEVER in 40 years of watching speedway seen riders all STOP at a red flag. They slow down and leave the track. How many times do you see red flags when a rider is prone injured on a bend? The riders don't stop and get off their bikes, they ride slowly past. Which is what Cook was doing.

If you want to see an actual headbutt check out the footage of Martin Dugard.

We'll have to agree to disagree. Either way, all parties acted like clowns.

Pretty much everyone has agreed that Cook did not headbutt or even attempt to headbutt the marshal, even most of those who were there and said so at the time. He shoulder charged him, that is it. Had he wanted to 'headbutt' him he would have done so. Still waiting for you to pay up on your bet