BWitcher

The Lamberts can have all the slack they want, they've done very well in getting their son additional track time and experience, nobody is knocking them for that at all. Good luck to the lad. However, little point 'supporting' a rider because he is 'british' if he doesn't want to race for his country. Not that I believe that will be the case for one moment down the line.

That's life. Deal with it. Most others do. Next Lamberts family will be bleating the speed limits are different in the UK to Germany.

Wrong, as I generally have a position to defend and am able to defend it without tying myself in knots. There is simply nothing for you to defend here. Lambert was not victimised. He simply had to abide by the rules that every other young budding speedway rider in the country had to abide by. All well and good until the first time the 14 year old is injured or causes the injury to another rider. The rule in place is 100% sensible. It seems the only people who disagree with this are you and the Lamberts.

This thread would have died out a long time ago but for your inane defence of a defenceless position.

If you'd bother to actually read the thread you will see very few people are having a go at him, just disagreeing with he and his families claims. Most actually want to see him succeed.

Queue a postponement in the 'interest of the public'

Most people seem to understand the point..

They didn't exactly confront it.. But they brought it up and gave the impression there was more to it than meets the eye.

Also very interesting in the Eurosport studio commentary when referring to Sayfutdinov and Gollob. Basically adding fuel to the fire that, as speculated by many, their withdrawal was not for the reasons give.

Good point, Mr Ford was quite insistent on 'reverting' back to the previous line-up last season wasn't he.

As I said after the pairs, Smolinski will be fine on a track with a good inside line. Even better when riders leave it open for him time and again. See how he gets on as the season progresses, still not convinced he will do that well.. However... Superb tonight, well done.

Gating tart Hampel knocks Tai out the semis. Please don't have him go on and win. Such a boring rider.

I'm not.

There was only one thing Smolinski was going to do in that corner and that was hold the tightest of inside lines, which he did. Had he not lost control he was gaining a lot of ground and would have got close to passing. Riding where he did gave Smolinski the opportunity to try that move. Pin it on the inside, nothing the German could have done. Some of you seem to think I am 'blaming' Ward for the crash. Of course not! He was the innocent victim totally.. I am merely pointing out that again, a rider is riding the wrong line on the track and giving an opponent behind an opportunity.

Nasty looking crash, again, dumb riding this time from Ward, had he rode the right line on final bend it wouldn't have happened. Fingers crossed he is ok.

Another ride completely lacking in intelligence.

How can it be first bend bunching when there are only two riders and exiting turn 2? Ward had plenty of room again. What Ward showed then was an utter lack of speedway intelligence. It was obvious Lindgren would make the same move and yet Ward fell for it yet again.

Justice done!

Pathetic biased commentary from Crump and pathetic refereering. Ward was as blatant an exclusion as you could get then. No bunching at all, he's about 10 metres from the fence, and fell untouched.

It still amazes me how some riders seem continually oblivious as to where to ride on the track. Its blatant that you have to hold the inside tight, yet Freddie Lindgren (who is one of the worst culprits for this) couldn't figure this out until Smolinski had overtaken him.

Yes I get it, clearly you don't, or simply cannot act like an adult and admit when you've made a mistake. I have already acted like an adult and ADMITTED I made an error when referring to the Aussies having the same age limit. I was wrong on this, however the fact that their age limit is actually a year OLDER than the British one actually makes my case stronger and yours more ludicrous, something which seems to be passing you by. Correct, I don't tolerate folk talking rubbish and admit if I get something wrong. Perhaps I should take your attitude and when shown to be wrong about something, get in such a strop I make a big public song and dance about putting someone on ignore, then bring it up as often as I can on different threads.

Of course, that isn't the issue that's being debated mostly. It's the 'reasons' behind his thinking. They have no credence.

In other words, you have absolutely nothing to come back with. You've been caught out once again talking utter rubbish, using a system that doesn't allow riders to race till they are 16 to attack a system that allows riders to race at 15. A pretty basic fail. Now, you could act like an adult and acknowledge your mistake, or you can act like a child and attempt to make a witty comment before putting your tail between your legs and running.

No, it isn't a matter of opinion. Whether rules change from year to year is irrelevant, what is relevant is the rule in the given year. If you can let me know when Lambert could have raced in the UK at the age he wanted too and when the rule was changed to target him and prevent him from doing so, then you might just have something to complain about. Nice try in your efforts to wriggle out of your ridiculous previous post when you laud the German system and lambast the British one, using Australia as an example. I apologise, you are right, their rules are different.. they don't allow them to ride 500cc machines until they are 16 not 15... so quite how you feel that backs up your claims is beyond me. The reality is I don't think anybody has anything against Lambert at all, simply they do not think he has anything at all to be whinging about. The biggest danger to Lamberts popularity is folk overhyping him.. we're already seeing it on this thread. Sure he is a very talented rider with a lot of potential, but at the moment that is all it is, potential. From what I saw last season he is nowhere near the level of someone like Joe Screen at the same age. Poor old Joe had to wait till he was 16 to race too.

It's not a matter of opinion. Opinion is irrelevant. It really is quite simple and straight forward. The rules didn't allow Lambert, or ANY other rider to do what he wanted to do. Very very simple. As for the nonsense in the rest of your post, saying the rule doesn't work because we haven't produced much talent.. dismissing Woffinden as he was a product of the Aussie youth system who funnily enough have the VERY SAME RULE in place. The reality is Woffinden may have had talent when he returned to the UK, but talent means nothing and he progressed through the tiers, NL, then PL, then EL, all the way till he was World Champion. He didn't get ahead of himself, didn't believe in his own hype enough to 'skip' Premier League racing. Neither incidentally did Chris Holder or Darcy Ward. Lambert's (and his family) decision to go straight to the EL has a far greater chance of damaging his career than progressing through the PL, history tells us that. Not only is this the case in speedway but in many sports around the world where young talents, when pushed too far too fast, burn out far quicker than those who progress through the ranks in a more sensible fashion.