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But we do know. We just had a meeting. Iversen and Zagar beat them. The level of intelligence on this forum just gets worse and worse.. One minute folk are moaning riders don't qualify.. then they moan when they do.

You could have the very best 16 riders in the world... way, way ahead of anyone else. One of them will still come last.

You're spot on.. point is, even at this stage of their careers, both Zagar and Iversen are capable of winning a GP.

You're totally right, what a nonsense speedway is. It should be like football where the top 8 sides in the World Cup are seeded to the next event.. All the others aren't allowed to qualify as they had their chance. Speedway fans... I despair at times.

Really? I think you will find they do. As I said, you don't realise it, but you're actually abusing Auty. Your constant reference to this talent he has is saying he has wasted his career.

You do realise, you're actually abusing Josh Auty with these posts you make?

You're spot on. It has everything.. the thrill of making a great start.. the agony of putting it in the fence/grass... the joy of a last bend pass.. team riding your partner round (ok that doesn't apply to me despite my best efforts). As you say it's a good community, plenty of fun, sure there are some words exchanged from time to time (doesn't apply to me of course again ) but it all adds to the spice and doesn't last long.

I did for a while

Apologies guys, I didn't check his previous posts.. it's just another of the multi aliases we get on here. We should just ignore.

How about your other 15-20 profiles, maybe they'd fancy a go?

Either that or simply don't reply. The same effect eventually.

Why do they get ruined? Put on ignore, you don't see it. Simple.

They can just use VPN's and the like sadly. Some of you just constantly feed it so it comes back for more and more. Just simply put on ignore and after total silence it will eventually get bored and go hassle elsewhere...

So you've tried it then I take it?

Now you're trotting out the Sidney line of ' I watched it every week' which is utterly irrelevant. I haven't said anything about the overall strength of the 2019 and 2003 leagues. What I have said is quite clearly an 18 team league will have more heat leaders and higher averages than an 11 team league and that the heat leader trio you picked out were pretty average. There were far better ones. The 2003 version had more strength in depth but because they were spread over more teams it diluted the strength of the teams somewhat. So yes, overall the 2003 league had more decent riders in total, but the actual teams, not too much difference at all between the top teams in each.

lmoa, Brilliant! The maths just get better.... all the riders are fiddling low averages lol. An 11 team league is harder than an 18 team league in terms of obtaining an average. There isn't a debate, it's a fact. A 7.00 assessed average suggests such an average is harder to obtain than when a 9.00 average is given. Again, it's not an 'opinion', it is fact. 9 is higher then 7.

Pinny, you're not intelligent enough to understand basic Maths so there isn't any point continuing this conversation. Watson couldn't clean up in an 18 team league, let alone an 11. We understand, you have a passion for second rate 2nd division Newport heat leaders who were barely better than Tony Atkin but that's it.

And your comment is about as dated as on old BBC computer as graphics come very low down in the success of the most played games in the world these days. This game is all about playability and enjoyment, graphics utterly irrelevant.

Only jealous xenophobes That said, not really noticed this 'love' for Ty Proctor.

Harris, Morris (now getting fitness and form back) and Schlein can all beat some of the very best in the world when on it. The same could never be said about Watson and Smart!

That tells you its much harder!

You're judging riders on what they went on to achieve, not what they were doing then. You cannot argue. An 18 team league produces 54 heat leaders. An 11 team league produces 33. The strength of the rider is irrelevant. What assessed riders are hitting 9.00 now? Watson and Smart would be 6.5-7.5 at best riders in the current size league. That's been proven over and over. You cannot argue against Maths Pinny, give it up, you're out your depth.

You're right my apologies, Andersson was at Kings Lynn that year having spent 5 years at Eastie. Either way the point still stands, despicable display from Dugard and one in which he got very very lucky. Andersson could have suffered serious injuries from hitting his head on the way down. Absolute BS Andersson saw the punch coming towards him, he was half turned away at the time and had zero time to react or defend himself at all. It was a despicable assault. Nothing at all like Ice Hockey for example where players drop the gloves to signify a fight.

The bigger the league, the more heat leaders there are and the higher they will average. That is indisputable maths. I said nothing about the overall strength just pointed out your chosen heat leader trio did not prove your point as they are nowhere near as strong as Harris, Nick Morris and Rory Schlein.

Compared to Chris Harris, Nick Morris and Rory Schlein the trio you've quoted are extremely weak. Watson had a couple of decent seasons in a much larger league which of course inflates your average. Was a 5pter at best in top division, again in larger league. Smart wasn't even as good as that. 8.39 in 2003, including bonus pts in an 18 team league? That's nothing special at all. Iversen was a long way of being the rider he now is. Again 9.13 including bonus in an 18 team league, nothing that great.