BWitcher

And why is that? What's the common theme.. What has been done every year.. and every year its got worse... but you advocate continuing it!

All those advocating cutting the standard further quite simply must be blind. What do you think they have been doing for the last 10 years? Its been cut, cut, cut, cut. What has happened as a result of that? Less people attending. It's not hard to spot the pattern, yet still folk advocate continuing it.

Replaced Brendan Johnson with Benji Compton as one of their fast track riders. To do so, Benji Compton has mysteriously tumbled down the fast track list (which is meant to be based on current form, his current form has been good)... and more importantly a rule has been changed to allow it to take place. The rule being changed on the BSPA site the day after the change had been announced... nothing to do with the outcry of course.

Spot on Humphrey. Basic random number generation is how it works. It would also depend upon whether you just wanted one calculation to determine the result of the race, or it can be done in phases to 'create a race' as such.. i.e positions after lap 1, lap 2 etc. you can then link this into various forms of text for commentary too. With SCB's skills it would be pretty basic stuff. I've done something similar for wrestling way back in the day on the good old 48K. Had 16 wrestlers to select, you'd pick the two and it would give text commentary on the match. All random number generated, but with variables thrown in for their stamina, strength etc that would deplete depending upon the events of the match. Speedway would actually be easier!

If it's such a waste of time, why do the riders do it? Perhaps you should give them your pearls of wisdom? I've no idea why some people think canceling practice will somehow improve the gps.

Why?

Have you ever played the board game Speedway Scene 2? It's what Flying Shale was based on. Each rider is graded from A+ down to N I think from memory. It was a simple die roll system, where you would roll 2 dice and check the chart of your riders grade to see the result.. The higher the grade of rider, the more spaces they would advance.. some of the numbers would result in some form of problem being encountered such as a fall, engine failure etc. You could use a similar system, but then tailor it a little further per rider, making some better gaters, some more able to overtake on the inside/outside etc... then add a formula in to adjust that result dependant upon the particular track etc. Somewhere back at home I've actually got a very developed system doing just that that accounted for riders ability, the staging track, weather conditions etc that could be quite easily adapted into a computer game.. When I was about 13/14 I would spend hours working on it to get it as realistic as possible! I know a small (very small now) amount of programming and have produced a very very basic simulation of a race using some of those formulas but that's it. I don't have a clue how to take it further and incorporate all the other features of a management game.

What on earth are you talking about? That venue for the 'Chilli Bowl' is the Tulsa Expo Center. It's not even a stadium, but an exhibition hall in which they put up some temporary stands. Will hold less than 10,000. Yet you are seriously suggesting it is a better venue than Cardiff??? It would be like us staging the British GP at the NEC... not the arena at the NEC, but one of the exhibition halls.

Another one conveniently ignoring that the same move was pulled by Krcmar a lap earlier, the only reason why Nilsson didn't bounce of the fence was he had a brain and throttled off, pulling his leg back out of the way. If anyone is advocating NIlsson should have been excluded, then Krcmar should have been excluded prior.

So Krcmar should have been excluded the lap before then as Nilsson was forced to shut off. Doesn't matter how you spin it, the referee was wrong. Couldn't disagree more, it would make the racing worse in my opinion. Some of the most exciting races are when riders really have to work to make a pass, not when they just have an open avenue provided to them on the 1st lap to sail by.

That's what its meant to be for. Not for multia-alias posters who don't post their own opinion, but post to troll.

Ridiculous.

So you agree the Czech should have been excluded then as did exactly the same thing first, the difference being Nilsson was intelligent enough to throttle off.

Just another freeloader.

You're entitled to be wrong of course. That's your choice. You're not entitled to rewrite history though.

No it isn't 'dead right'. We've had this debate over and over. Speedway has ALWAYS been predominantly won from the gate. Of course you can remember watching some close racing etc.. we all do. What you forget is the hundreds of strung our races you will also have seen. Just like now.

You mean it's too much like the sport of speedway?

It's a notice (piece of paper) stuck to a fence at the site, stating that the planning application is being made.

You do realise it is a completely different fan base? Wolverhampton had a NL team for a spell, also raced on Tuesday nights, less than 100 were there most meetings.

That's just the Barry Briggs Pension Fund WK.

No, because times have changed, but thanks for once again reinforcing what I have said all along.

I've not at any stage ever said simply changing to 1 night a week racing will solve the problems. I've always stated quite clearly that the product has to be overhauled and changes made. What I object to is the same old tired clichéd arguments put forward at the mere suggestion of change. You yourself have highlighted, change is needed and lots of it. Speedway in this country is stuck in the mud, and the many of the fans who still attend are stuck in the mud too, I make no apologies for using that term as its the reality. Sometimes reality hurts. As I said before, I'm one of the stick in the muds too but I realise things have got to change.

It doesn't matter what night the product is on if its something that people will buy into. If you present crap, which is done now, people will stop coming, which they have. If you present a good product it doesn't matter what night it is on, people will attend. Do people only go to concerts at the weekend? Premier League Darts, that's Thursdays, it will never work! All of your arguments are based around the existing product so they are effectively null and void. The PRODUCT has to change and it has to change radically to engage the public once again.

You could even see an increase in away support.

Another of the ridiculous old clichéd arguments presented. Most other sports can cope with home one week, away the next, but oh no, not speedway! All this boils down to is the same old stick in the muds wanting things the way they've always had it. Being able to go each week, being able to go to another track during the week. The same old stick in the mud promoters thinking that because those stick in the mud, ever aging and declining base of fans want it, everyone else does as well. People are speaking with their feet. They're not coming anymore. So these creatures of habit you speak of aren't attending every week anymore, its an argument long past its sell by date. A well presented, well marketed league run on a 1 home 1 away basis would make matches a must see and not have fans picking and choosing their meetings which they do now... those that still bother to pick and choose that is! For what it's worth, I too would much prefer racing every week... but the reality is it's not working.