BWitcher

Correct it was, he was inferring that the Premier league is a VERY poor standard, which is what I said. Yet he was using said argument to refute the suggestion that the EL is better. Hence it was ridiculous.. It's quite simple.

That's precisely the sort of attitude that is seeing more and more fans drift away. I only used away fans as an example.. don't for one moment think home fans will be happy that the management doesn't seem in the slightest bit interested in trying to win.

Not too bad a performance from Wolves tonight if I am being honest, I expected worse. What I did expect was Howarth to score 0, and he duly delivered. The Wolves promotion should issue an apology to any travelling away fans for who they have shown zero regard. With RR Wolves would very likely have come away with a pt and may even have sneaked a draw or better. 5 pts from Lindgren, Wells, Karlsson and Thorsell wouldn't have been a lot to ask for a draw.

Try following the conversation. He is replying to SCB refuting the claim that the incorrectly named PL is better. I'm also not suggesting his post implied anything.. simply stating that if you're denigrating the standard of the EL, you're doing the same to the PL as the standard is lower.

Totally agree with that. Very intelligent race from Summers, hard but completely fair. Yet all the commentators talked about was 'super smoooth' Konopka in the lead! Oblivious to the work Summers was having to do. It's title suggests its the Elite, i.e. the highest standard league in the UK. If you can name me a league in the UK that is of a higher standard, then you would be correct that it's weaker than its name suggests.

So his opinion is the PL is a very low standard? As that is what is post is implying... Somehow I don't think that is his opinion though... which renders his post ridiculous.

Unbelievable the ridiculous statements that get made.

What he saw was a bend, that you have to turn left to go into. Konopka stayed on a straight line all the way down the straight. Bates lifted in the early part of the straight, moved across somewhat out of control, regained it but continued to drift into Konopka. An unfortunate racing incident where there was nothing deliberate, but Bates rightly was the one to be excluded.

And that's the key!! Massive credit to your promoters.

The English language isn't based on your book. If there is no passing in a race, it's a procession. That's the meaning of the word, following in order, which was the case in the vast majority of races last night. Again I repeat, the meeting was enjoyable and I wish it could be like that on every TV meeting. The primary reasons were not the racing, which once again destroys the myth that the 'racing' is all that matters. Thanks for proving my point. So there 4 races with passing in. Which makes 11 processional heats. 11 out of 15 is the majority. NO poster has put a damper on anything, indeed everyone who has posted has said they have enjoyed the meeting. However, some of us have the intelligence to identify the main reasons why it was more enjoyable than other meetings with similar racing and don't have to resort to the PL is better, or EL is better rubbish.

It was exactly as we discussed while watching it SCB. The meeting, although enjoyable, was full of processional racing. The track was one line, get out wide you were not going to be passed. The banking however made it look 'exciting', which is good. What made it was the simple fact it was a nice tidy stadium with a decent crowd and an atmosphere! Something I have been on and on and on about for 10 years+ is an absolute must for ALL Sky meetings. It is SO easy to promote this sport via TV and last night was an example of it.

Tonight has proved what some of us have been saying all along. Get a good crowd into the stadium and an average meeting will look that much better. Had tonights meeting been raced in front of a sparse crowd like many TV matches are, it wouldn't be getting the praise it is now. That's not a knock on it, I enjoyed it.

Are we? We've done well at home, which was expected and managed to win at Lakeside.. something that has lost some of its shine given subsequent results. Apart from that, drubbed at Swindon and Poole.

You do like to contradict yourself don't you. I point out that had Sheffield ridden as a team Proctor would still be in a job. You then claim its bollox and riders should spend more time team riding and doing what is best for the team.. So tell me, was Proctor losing his job best for the team? Yep, they're earning a fortune no doubt depriving others of earning a living playing in local cricket leagues.

Arson Fire has provided a link. However it's completely irrelevant. The point is, cricket will have criteria. If players meet it, they can play, if they don't, they won't. The same applies to all other sports and indeed businesses. What the criteria is and the strictness of it is not relevant.

Which is irrelevant to your original post that it does speedways credibility no good.

100% correct decision. However, Lawson should have been excluded the race before.

Why? Are you claiming that speedway is the only sport that competitors have to abide by immigration/visa rules?

Yep. Hopefully you've learned not to make yourself look dumb with posts like this. What a difference a decent crowd makes. The racing is nothing special, but the fact there is a decent crowd watching makes the whole show appear so much better.

They meet the rules in place. Proctor does not. It's simple.

Sigh. It's got nothing to do with the sports 'credibility'. Speedway isn't above the laws of the UK.

So that makes it even worse then as lessons haven't been learnt. This is important stuff, why don't these people get things in writing as any normal business would do?

It had to be his rolling average surely. Otherwise teams would be claiming "he averaged 7 in September" etc. This is/was a serious issue. Sheffield should have ensured they had confirmed, in writing, what was required. Simply saying we were told this doesn't wash.

So how did some members of the BSF fully understand the situation but Sheffield didn't. Clutching at straws I'm afraid. The buck stops with Sheffield.

It is the responsibility of Sheffield to know, so your defence of 'IF' is completely and utterly irrelevant. Some posters on this forum knew so there is absolutely no excuse for Sheffield not knowing.