
BWitcher
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You do like to contradict yourself don't you. I point out that had Sheffield ridden as a team Proctor would still be in a job. You then claim its bollox and riders should spend more time team riding and doing what is best for the team.. So tell me, was Proctor losing his job best for the team? Yep, they're earning a fortune no doubt depriving others of earning a living playing in local cricket leagues.
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Arson Fire has provided a link. However it's completely irrelevant. The point is, cricket will have criteria. If players meet it, they can play, if they don't, they won't. The same applies to all other sports and indeed businesses. What the criteria is and the strictness of it is not relevant.
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Which is irrelevant to your original post that it does speedways credibility no good.
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100% correct decision. However, Lawson should have been excluded the race before.
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Why? Are you claiming that speedway is the only sport that competitors have to abide by immigration/visa rules?
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Yep. Hopefully you've learned not to make yourself look dumb with posts like this. What a difference a decent crowd makes. The racing is nothing special, but the fact there is a decent crowd watching makes the whole show appear so much better.
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They meet the rules in place. Proctor does not. It's simple.
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Sigh. It's got nothing to do with the sports 'credibility'. Speedway isn't above the laws of the UK.
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So that makes it even worse then as lessons haven't been learnt. This is important stuff, why don't these people get things in writing as any normal business would do?
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It had to be his rolling average surely. Otherwise teams would be claiming "he averaged 7 in September" etc. This is/was a serious issue. Sheffield should have ensured they had confirmed, in writing, what was required. Simply saying we were told this doesn't wash.
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So how did some members of the BSF fully understand the situation but Sheffield didn't. Clutching at straws I'm afraid. The buck stops with Sheffield.
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It is the responsibility of Sheffield to know, so your defence of 'IF' is completely and utterly irrelevant. Some posters on this forum knew so there is absolutely no excuse for Sheffield not knowing.
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It's a fair point, almost as fair as saying anyone who spends their life travelling to hundreds and hundreds of speedway meetings is a somewhat strange person too. Edited to add: What I mean by that is, we're speedway fans, so we're all a bit strange
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Isn't that what has happened though? His existing visa has now expired, to obtain a new one he needs a 7pt average. He didn't achieve it. The Sheffield management should have been fully aware of his average after every ride and been doing everything in their power to ensure he finished above 7. Putting him in Heat 15's away from home in meetings that are already lost shows that they quite simply hadn't a clue!
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It is easy. There is no excuse. I've been having a look.. first one I found, he was 3rd in a 3 man race behind his partner. Next I find him being put in Heat 15 at Somerset when you are 30pts behind causing a further fall in his average. Next I find another 3rd behind Birks with Sam Chapman in 4th who didn't score all night. The pay is no problem. You make your riders aware and pay them for the position they gave up. Unbelievable. People don't think.. they KNOW. It's proven.
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Of course you should. Any management team worth their salt would know EXACTLY what proctors running average was. They would know EXACTLY how many pts he needed to score. If it required team mates slowing up to let him by close to the line, as when on a Tac ride, then that is what was required. For them to now claim this is a shock simply shows utter ineptitude on their part. There isn't any decision making involved. It's like you losing 48-42 then claiming its a rubbish decision that the other team won.
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Proctor has picked up 10 bonus pts this year. Had he finished ahead of his partner in 7 of those races, he'd have a 7pt average and a new permit. Poor, poor management.
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See above
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He wasn't given 60 days, he had last season too. He simply had 60 MORE days to reach the required level. Cruelly robbed? He had a visa that expired in the 2nd week in May. They knew that was the case. They knew what was required for him to obtain a new one. They failed to ensure he achieved it. Nobody has been 'cruelly robbed'. It is Sheffields own ineptitude that has put them in this situation.
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Once again speedway fans pointing the finger at everyone except those who are to blame. The reality is, Proctor did not qualify for a work permit. In an attempt to work with the sport he was given an opportunity to hit the required level. Sheffield KNEW this when they chose to sign him. This isn't something that has come out of the blue. They also KNEW what was required for him to continue riding this season and as SCB has pointed out they were too dumb to ensure he did hit the required target. The only people to blame are the Sheffield promotion/management.
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Stars V Wolves - Wed 13 May
BWitcher replied to pointsmeanplayoffs's topic in SGB Premiership Speedway League
CVS will likely be the one who has made the guest booking. He most certainly won't have been against it. -
Speedway World Cup Team Gb Squad
BWitcher replied to Gavan's topic in Speedway Grand Prix and Speedway World Cup
The promoters of the meeting, OneSport. Nobody else. -
Warsaw Gp Saturday 18th April
BWitcher replied to racers and royals's topic in Speedway Grand Prix and Speedway World Cup
There is no side of the argument. Trees has made up that riders were coasting into the bends. They weren't. -
Warsaw Gp Saturday 18th April
BWitcher replied to racers and royals's topic in Speedway Grand Prix and Speedway World Cup
Now people are just making it up as they go along!