BWitcher

I don't care how many times you claim it, it didn't. You were posting on this forum whinging about the sport for quite some time AFTER the tactical ride had been introduced and whilst you were STILL attending. It's revisionist history for you to suggest that it was the Tactical Ride that stopped you going. Something you like to throw out to justify your position.. however I submit to you that it was a lot more than just the tactical ride, it may have formed a part of the reason, but please be honest, it was far from the sole reason was it?

Absolutely spot on.

Right call by referee.

If nicki pulled that move all hell would break loose on here!

Good man for bringing some reality back to the thread!

Certainly not where you have linked too.

Of course it is. Bless. Except you were attending the sport for years after it was introduced. As regards this thread, the more the sport cuts the quality and the costs, the more fans walk away, the more money clubs lose. Yet year after year we hear the same thing.. lets cut the costs! Carry on doing it, there'll be nothing left to cut.

I don't have to rely on phrases at all, because folk like you do go off in a huff. I have no ego, hence I'll debate with anyone and not 'refuse' to post once my opinion is questioned. Folks with egos are the ones when as soon as their opinion is questioned, immediately claim the other person only wants to be right and refuses to post again. Basically, doing the precise thing they are whinging about. On the other thread I stated that the issues regarding Tactical Rides/Guests etc were not the cause of the dropping attendances in speedway. You and tmc refused to believe this and indeed, went off in a huff. Why did you do this? Not because of any name calling, not because of any stock phrases.. quite simply because it was pointed out, with EVIDENCE that what you were saying was incorrect. Now you could have chosen to counter the argument but instead decided to hurl some insults and the refuse to post again.. something you have done on numerous occasions before. As for 'turning me inside out'.. I look forward to that day. That would require you to act like an adult long enough to hold a rational debate, past history has shown that you are absolutely incapable of doing that. Now here we are on this thread and TMC has cited the reason the Speedway Mail closed was due to dropping attendances.... a long time before any of the issues you've banging on about had cropped up.

What are you talking about?? Doyle has every right to come across INTO another rider.. but Nicki doesn't have the right to ride in a straight line?? The point is Nicki was in the lead when the contact occurred, so on all counts, you've blown your own argument!

Agreed, but you can guarantee had Nicki done it, it would be viewed differently.

Of course, Harris is an excellent booking for them. Makes them stronger and that's the whole idea when booking a guest if possible!

Nicki didn't barrel into anyone, he continued on his line, Doyle turned into him, after first sticking his leg into him.

Only 2 years till the next one! It wasn't irrelevant. Harris is better at Monmore than Nick Morris. Harris has a higher average with bonus pts than Nick Morris Harris has a higher average in 2015 WITHOUT bonus pts than Nick Morris. It's pretty conclusive.

The second incident is pretty much irrelevant as its a knock on from the first. Nicki is unable to turn due to Doyle leaning into him, so he goes straight on and collects the other rider.

Funny isn't it how one who went off in a bit of a huff over what I was saying pops up again a few days later providing evidence to prove me right.

He wasn't red carded for the incident in the pits.

It's hilarious when biased folk try and concoct reasons to back themselves up. What pre-ride assessment is this you have concocted?? Or are you talking about a completely different race track, which pretty much renders your argument redundant as it would be clear you hadn't seen the meeting and have no idea what 'the racing line' was..

You've just shown precisely why Nicki shouldn't have been excluded. Doyle was slowing down, so Nicki wasn't 'steaming in', he was racing at normal speed. Doyle was the one who shut off, got in a mess and had nowhere to go.

Interesting.. yet we didn't have double uppers, fast track riders, or TR's....

You will find it is usual for every speedway rider to 'stick their back wheel out' as they enter a corner.

Slightly different circumstances though.. How would Tai have reacted if lets say his incident with Kildemand had been in the early stages of the meeting and he was then 'red carded' from the GP.. and following that then confronted by Kildemands manager as he returned to the pits.. Totally agree Tai is very level headed.

The 'Death Star'. That tells us all we need to know. If you can't post objectively, why bother at all? I suppose you think that leg in the black leathers is Nicki Pedersens leg as well. I knew it wouldn't be long before one of these posts popped up. You do realise that the Polish League have instructed referees to CLAMP DOWN on riders looking for contact and then going down don't you? Yet still folk like yourself are oblivious to the fact that this goes on!

Will he indeed? He did nothing wrong in this race and shouldn't have even been excluded, but that won't stop the Nicki haters waving their arms around. Nicki came by Doyle on the straight who then turned left into him, meaning Nicki was unable to turn.

Janowski was well clear, Zagar wasn't though, Tai was right behind him as they entered turn 3, with Holder only a tad further away when he fell.

Absolutely 100% spot on. Nicki did absolutely nothing wrong and Doyle should have been excluded. Nicki had the run on the straight, entered the corner ahead, Doyle was stuck in the middle and should have shut off, instead he tried to turn too late to block Nicki and just turned into the back of him. That of course straightened Nicki up who then did very well indeed to begin to scrub of speed and slow the bike down to avoid totally wiping out the other rider.