BWitcher

Will be tougher for them.. effectively the playoffs begin in that match for the Aces.

This is a good point as its trotted out time and again there are 'more injuries than ever before'. I've heard that said for the last 20 years! I would suggest we simply forget most of the injuries from the past! 1993 for example, Wolverhampton lost 4 riders in the space of a week.

Bound too, I'd expect there's plenty of Zielona Gora officals on here Or is this a post to arouse 'suspicion'....

Which match is on first? Better to be on 2nd from the Aces point of view, track will be much slicker, make a start and win the heat with ease.

I'm not changing the subject, one rider is described as showing his 'class'. Well I don't buy his hypocritical 'class'. So a rider swore on live TV, whoopy doo! In case you've noticed, swearing is a part of life, it exists in vast amounts of modern entertainment. It's only ever a very, very small minority that objects. The sport would be better off with more raw emotion than the scripted, smiling, grinning sickly nonsense we usually get.

There are many who moan about the GP's, it's usually the same ones who moan about the playoffs.

Strange isn't it how playoffs are successful in every sport they exist in... but you claim not in speedway. The reality is, speedways woes have nothing to do with playoffs and are far more deep rooted. Failure to move with the times, failure to promote, consistent refusal to move in line with other nations, the increasing number of guests used due to the double up and fast track system.. and Yes, the double pt rule plays a small part as well. All of these things and many many more come way above 'playoffs' as a negative in speedway.

Another thread with the same old post repeated.

Got that the wrong way round. Ward the rider has never divided opinion. Ward the person most certainly has.

So does Buzz Burrows know its cr*p as well?

I've never seen anything worse. The only time I can 100% say it was a totally deliberate attempt to injure another rider. Buzz could easily have ended up like Darcy and many other unfortunate riders, such as Mads Gregoric, who barely anybody is mentioning anywhere.

What is crap. It is ABSOLUTE 100% FACT. I was there, I witnessed it. Buzz Burrows was his 'victim'. I'll take a rider saying a couple of 'swear' words over another that deliberately set out to harm another all day long. Each to their own though.

Whoopy doo! Perhaps Zagar could consider that when he quite deliberately slows and callously throws his back wheel out with force to deliberately put a rider over a fence ... He also showed no remorse.

Tai and Bartosz are team mates in Sweden. Tai was clearly just telling him to stay on the inside and he'd hold his position and keep Nicki back. As for KK doing anyone favors .. dear me. As SCB says he and Tai had a spat just last week. Do explain further...

I've done the research, I can't find all these serious injuries on small tracks. You claim there are lots of them.. merely asking for examples. If you can't provide any, that says everything. I've read Vince's excellent post, at no point does he come close to agreeing with your sweeping proclamation that its the small UK tracks that are the issue. The serious injuries seem to be occuring on the bigger tracks, which is logical. Tai has never been one of the 'smoothest riders in the world'! He's always crashed a lot throughout his career! Riders lifting has always gone on, certainly since the 1980's when I started attending. Riders looping at the start gate was a fairly regular occurence in the past, you don't see it very often now. One thing the modern bikes don't like is inconsistent track surfaces. As regarding riding other riders bikes, again this isn't a new thing surely? Right back to when I first started going it has always been deemed difficult if you borrowed another riders bike.. not due to the engine setup but the positioning of saddle, handlebars etc.

The misguided perception that the sport is more dangerous now is twofold: 1: The immediacy of information. We hear about every crash in every single meeting around the world within hours (or less) of it happening. 2: Riders racing in different leagues. In yesteryear, not many riders who rode in the UK would be racing in the Polish Leagues for example.. so any injuries suffered in the Polish league wouldn't even get a mention in the UK. Essentially folk are comparing injuries in the British Leagues in the 'old days' to injuries in every single speedway meeting around the world now.

If you've thought it through you'll have a list to hand of the serious injuries suffered on the 'tight tracks'. Let's hear them.

Correct, but that is the case with all tac sub systems.

Nobody would argue against that DAC... except the person who stopped going and claims its about 'fairness'.

I'll exclude Tai from the list but the other two are precisely the reasons why parents should step aside.

Many thanks

No joy here either. Thousands of pop ups, not a lot else!

Is there anywhere with live updates of this meeting?

This is the kind of thing that was lapped up in the past as well, i.e. the crowd loved it. A similar thing in the modern era would provide very little interest at all really. That's not an attack by the way, just an observation to how times have changed.

I completely agree! It was nothing to do with Sky. 100% about costs.