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However, Italy is the country that traditionally 'stays inside' the most at this time of year. And they have the highest death rate from flu every year.. And the same with Covid-19.

Interested to read that on 23rd January it was stated that half a million people had contracted the flu in Italy..... in one week. Now that is a virus that spreads quickly... It could also be another reason for higher death rates in Italy.. if elderly people have been hit with the flu.. followed by this in a short space, they're going to be weaker. It continues to be the lack of testing that means a true clear picture is extremely difficult to form. It will be interesting how the US testing goes as they're offering it free to all. A larger sample may provide a better picture. Germany continues to test to a higher degree than most countries... death rate 0.19% at the moment.

So you don't think it will get worse then eh?

Iris.. has Germany got a more efficient testing service at the moment? I note the death rate there is 0.2%... far lower than most other places, this suggests those with mild symptoms are being tested more.. is that so? The rate including those in serious condition is 0.29%.. Worlwide figures at the moment: Italy 7.17% China 3.93% Iran 4.52% South Korea 0.89% Germany 0.20% Spain 2.54% France 2.16% USA 2.14% UK 1.38% Switzerland 0.97% Netherlands 1.24% Japan 2.86% Overall 3.72%

It isn't bad now in the slightest. Yes it will get worse, but to suggest its bad right now is just nonsense. 400,000 to 700,000 die every year from influenza for example. This particularly virus has taken 5000 lives so far worldwide, barely a blip. This is what's scary when people are so panicked over such small figures (compared to what happens every year)... christ knows what they'll be like if and when it shoots up.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/51878050 Who'd have thought it.... As said, your average guy on the street is never going to be tested with the mild symptoms Arteta and indeed Hudson-Odoi had.

Remember Drop a Cog constantly trying to drop Wolves speedway in it over this?

Or... you might get more semi regular/lasped fans come as they aren't spending their money elsewhere..

Yes, keep the panic and over reaction going. Ignore all medical advice. That's the spirit!

The problem is precisely that its not being left to the experts and the panic mongers must be appeased.. The media has a section of the public too scared now. Some believe its a death sentence if their 14 year old daughter catches it.. yet there is more chance of them being run over by a car than dying from coronavirus. As for imposing all the bans on sports, realistically, if you're doing that over 4800 deaths.. it should never run again in the winter. I read that the CDC figures showed influenza deaths to be over 60,000 in the same time period as Covid-19 has killed 4800. Forget the differences between the two for a moment, and imagine if the media were hyping 60,000 deaths...

Figures say that 20% of those tested positive for it require hospital treatment. There's the significant difference, it is very mild in the majority of cases.. mild enough that you wouldn't even bother going to a doctor or getting it checked. I agree about those with mild symptoms still being infected and going about their daily lives. South Korea is the only country to have done significant testing, including as many as possible with the mildest of symptoms. It's a serious issue for those in the problem groups.. what irks me is insane people (and I've come across them) screaming their child is in danger going to school. No they're not, they're about as likely to get run over by a car as to die from coronavirus... it's them carrying the virus to those more vulnerable that is the issue... as you mentioned.

I can honestly see some major incidents ahead. People are starting to panic already. I've come across several screaming that it's a 'fatal disease' that is spreading 'tremendously fast'. It will soon be at a point where if someone coughs they'll be, as you experienced, told to get lost, leave, stay out out our street.. even get out of the house next to us.. if we reach a point of shops being restricted, food shortages etc, it will be even worse... people will react, fights break out etc. Yes, the problem is serious. No, the death rate is not 4% or whatever figure keeps being quoted. No, everyone isn't going to die. The media will keep whipping up a frenzy and the **** will hit the fan.. that concerns me more than the virus itself.

Typical politically motivated rant. One minute the loons are screaming he doesn't take it seriously, he should be locking things down blah blah.. He does what they want.. they scream he's over reacting.

It's highly probably that thousands of us have got it or already had it. Let's face it, if you have a bit of a cough and a mild cold do you rush to your doctor? No. If you called the dedicated lines in England with mild symptoms, you are told to stay at home, you aren't tested. The only country that has adopted a thorough testing process is South Korea. They've tested 140,000 so far and as a result the death rate works out at 0.76% there. Even then they haven't tested everyone as mentioned above, many with the milder symptoms won't get tested, so the actual death rate will be lower.

Rightly so. Olympiakos owner has been in UK for 2 weeks.. and seems caught it in the UK. All Olympiakos staff and players have tested negative. There has been a death from Covid-19 in Wolverhampton.. zero in Athens. 373 cases in UK... 80 in Greece... 0 in Athens I believe. Game being played behind closed doors. They're 'safer' there than here... not that they are in any danger whatsoever anyway.

Yep, Wolves due to play Olympiakos (who he also owns) on Thursday in Athens. Game already due to be behind closed doors. Now likely to be called off.

Dr Harries on BBC Breakfast News: "The virus will not survive very long outside," she said. "Many outdoor events, particularly, are relatively safe."" So self isolate and stay indoors... errmmm...

600 v 1... hmm.. As ever, the gullible minorities get wound up by the media and governments are forced to act to appease them. https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/1233679/coronavirus-update-symptoms-flu-2020-china-flu-deaths

Older patient, in and out of hospital, sounds like was on last legs with or without coronavirus.

So.. there's a vaccine.. and there's still 12-16,000 died from it in the US.. Whereas the one without a vaccine has killed 2 in the US.

3% based upon those they know who have had it.. factor in all those who have likely had it and it drops massively. Deaths are investigated.. people with a mild cold are not.

People are dying every day from virus related illnesses.. in their millions. By your logic, you're happy to let them die it seems.

One should also consider that the vast majority of those 2% had pre-existing health conditions too.. some even died from other causes but happened to have Coronavirus at the time..

You're the one being hysterical.

Remind me where NKI finished in the final GP of last season?