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Now that was more like it, chopping and changing lines. Superb stuff.

Don't get that carried away, he just rode the right line. Just Pedersen riding like your typical brain dead rider. He's got his bike setup perfect for the track though that's for sure.

Hans Nielsen, Erik Gundersen and others would be pulled back every race these days after gating.

Don't contradict yourself too much there Gavan...

Does anyone make that right hand turn out of bend 2, lap 2 any better?

Ah ok thanks. That's actually quite hilarious!

What's this 'party', clearly missed something here...

It's a Wolves v Coventry thread. Tai rides for Wolves hence it is relevant.

Shame Garritty is missing, he is always great to watch at Monmore. It's a shame that yet ANOTHER thread is infested by Fred Flange. It really is time the mods removed this pestilence.

Fred Flange continuing to troll the thread I see.... Back on planet earth. Crowds without playoffs in Sweden 1223. Crowds with playoffs in Sweden 2743. Something tells me that promoters area happier with crowds of 2743 than 1223... but then again I could be wrong, the promoters could be wrong.. the riders earning more money could be wrong. Nah don't be silly. Fred Flange is wrong and everyone else on the planet, bar his aliases know that.

It doesn't matter what 'figures' you include. Include them all it makes absolutely no difference. Average attendance in the six years prior to the playoffs: 1223 Average crowd in the next six years after playoffs introduced: 2743 The two years after that to include the years you whitter on about there being a negative impact? 2672. Crowds post playoffs on the figures given well over double. Continue to make an utter fool of yourself and claim they had a negative impact to your hearts content.. To paraphrase you... hahaha

It's called being right.

Yes it does. The facts are attendances have not gone down in Sweden since the playoffs have been introduced, which was the crux of Fred Flange's argument. I didn't at any point say they had gone up BECAUSE of the play offs. In fact I even gave other reasons that could have an impact later on. Try again.

What is astonishing is you continue to waste your own time with your inane ramblings. You clearly think you're being clever at your attempt to 'manipulate' the statistics, sadly for you they just further emphasise what a complete troll you are. I say troll because I refuse to believe you can be so dumb to actually believe there is any logic to your nonsense.

If you don't know what the debate is, best not to comment. Nobody has said the INCREASED crowds in Sweden (the capitals are for the less intelligent, or trolling members of the forum, who can't grasp numbers very well) are down to the playoffs.. What has been disputed is the claim by ONE person/troll that the INCREASED crowds in Sweden are evidence of play offs having a detrimental effect on attendances.

And that is it in a nutshell.

No it hasn't been shown to have a negative effect in Sweden at all, as you full well know. Only you and your hilarious attempts at twisting figures can come up with such nonsense. Here is the post made by ArnieG regarding attendances in Sweden before and after playoffs introduced.

Says everything we need to know about you as a person.

You gleefully joined in the witch hunt, and even after it has been proved they aren't the same people you still hope he has been 'banned'. Accept you are/were wrong and move on.

Have you apologised yet? It really is quite hilarious how a few posters are still trying to have pops after basically been made to look like complete numptys on this thread. All the accusations, all the mocking, Gavan and Chris4Gillian have destroyed it all.. and I include myself in that. Some posters have been adult enough to admit they were wrong... others well...

Why? Mine has always been open, I'd say 90% at least of my friends on there are open.

I really don't think Gavan should be given further stick for this. A number of folk have repeatedly claimed he was lying, claimed he was the same person as Chris4Gillian and despite his protestations mocked him for his denials. He was challenged to prove what he said was true... he did just that. I will apologise to both he and Chris4Gillian as despite doubting they were the same person for some time, today I had began to think they were. It will be interesting to see if the others who made the accusations apologise also, like Pinny to his credit has.

As silly as he has been, he has a long long way to go to reach your levels.

Haha.. I don't block anyone. Message box was full from all my fans.

Don't be daft, Scott 'Scud' Smith surely!