BWitcher

What a disgraceful decision. Harris is ahead, is on the inside, Kildemand has the whole of the track to ride. Kildemand is the one who has turned into Harris and should be out. Utter rubbish,

Nobody has too, if you want something accepted, you have to prove it, that's how life works. Anyway, I believe you were a rider, I actually raced you 27 times, won every time. Did a 360 on the 1st bend once after a hard shunt, stayed on, and caught you by lap three.

Let's hope not so we can have a meeting settled without controversy (ignoring Lindback for now).

Have you caught one?

I know Max Clegg is 'quite smart' around Monmore. However Adam Ellis and Kyle Newman are even smarter. I'm not saying he won't beat them and of course I hope he does, but Poole are heavy favorites to dominate the reserves races. Hence if Max can beat them he's done superb. You're not in position to make comments at this stage Not until you have completed your Peter Adams management rehab course after your earlier blunder.

Stop it

Who is he going to beat? Both Newman and Ellis can ride Wolves very well and I would expect them to blow the Wolves reserves away from the gate in both reserves races. IF that didn't happen and somehow the Wolves reserves matched yours, then I would suspect you would be in a lot of trouble.

Who is Clegg going to beat realistically? Howarth? That's where Wolves need something big.. you could put Poole down for 5-1's in Heats 2 and 12, that then makes it 20 pts to pull back in 13 heats... Extremely tough ask.

Nah can't agree with this one. Throwing a race because you 'might' win the next one is highly risky. I don't think even Poole would have considered that. Not only that, we'd have lost a pt by doing so! We'd have been seven behind, as opposed to six As I've said earlier, we lost it by consistently getting the entry to turn one wrong, it cost us 5-6 pts.. the difference between a draw and a 12pt defeat.

He may well be right that the Wolves top five do score 47, but it won't help if the reserves only score 2 or 3 between them. Especially if Poole pick up a couple of pts extra from a tac somewhere.

You're not catching much at the moment Skidder on the other thread or this, need to try a different bait I think

Maybe not... but Holder would have had to have worked hard for it.. which he didn't have to do in his passes last night. It's easy to be 'in form' when riders move over for you! As said, first two laps when the line he wanted wasn't available he was making no impression.

No idea, he only had himself to blame in Heat 15. Led for two laps then stupidly changed his line gifting Holder the pass... (third time Holder had that gift).

Just back from Poole after finally enjoying my first meeting of the season. I'd said beforehand that the maximum Wolves could give up was eight to have a realistic chance of progression, twelve I feel will prove too much. Good night's racing but boy oh boy did Wolves just hand things on a plate too Poole. I've long said speedway riders aren't the brightest, but tonight was taking it to new levels. I also have no idea what the team manager was doing and why he wasn't pointing out the bleedin obvious. Time and again Wolves riders would hit the front, time and again they would decide to enter turn 1 out wide leaving a gaping hole for Messrs Holder and Lindback to drive through. Thorssell did it, Masters did it, Lindgren did it in Heat 15. I thought Lindgren had learned from the earlier cock ups as he entered turn 1 tight on the first two laps, keeping Holder comfortably at bay... only for lap three for him to basically just pull over and wave Holder through. Holder was fast, but effectively gifted a maximum as three times he was given a gaping hole to pass. Rider of the night was Newman, he pulled off a superb pass on Howarth in the second reserves race, Howarth was actually riding the track correctly, entering turn one tight and drifting out to block the outside run and pick up drive but Newman executed an excellent cut back. Woffinden paid the price for trying to team ride Howarth home in his first race and in his second was caught by a superb inside move from Lindback, who was the first rider to show the inside line could work. He caught Thorsell and briefly got ahead of him but after repassing Thorssell did show a speedway brain by switching lines and riding tight into turn one on the final lap to prevent Lindback from coming through... something as stated he forgot to do later on. As for the 2nd leg, Wolves would need absolutely everything to go their way and Holder and one of the Poole reserves to have something off an off night to stand a chance.

Not sure that is the reason... they have the dogs on Monday afternoon don't forget! Does Starman actually realise that it's a two leg meeting and Poole will be racing at Monmore regardless? Beginning to wonder....

It's amusing that Starman thinks Wolves are 'cheating' and Shovlar alludes earlier in the thread to the big advantage Wolves have hosting the 2nd leg. When they are able to choose Wolves always choose to be at home in the FIRST leg.

'Stars'?

Individual world titles are how riders from different countries should be judged. Tai can do nothing about the level of his fellow countrymen. As such, Tai has every change of emulating Hans.

He also had a terrible meeting in Sweden in the play-offs

I agree with most of what you say, but re-assessing a rider who has completed a full season very recently would just be making things far worse.

Well we've had three different answers. Hans Nielsen ran a school, I know Jan O Pedersen has been involved in a school and Waihekeaces says Erik Gundersen was also looking at doing something. Whichever of the three, your claim that Tai will 'never be as successful' is false. He may be, he may not be, time will tell.

The top 5's of Poole and Wolves are pretty evenly matches, the big advantage for Poole will be at reserve. The other key is it appears Holder is running into something like his best form whilst Lindgren is tailing off.

You're missing a key thing here. When Poole have had stick it's when one of their riders has gone out on loan and then returned with a much lower average. Very, very different situation. Woffinden rode a full year and achieved his averaged. Wolves suffered from that. There is no comparison.

That was his average, as earned on track. It's very simple and neither is it BS. It's when you get into the world of assessing and re-assessing that things become BS.

Don't forget his claim to have won many races at Poole...