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It's all a bit silly isn't it? The SGP already ran sprint races - 23 of them in fact. This is quite aside from the fact that track conditions are going to change between qualifying sessions, so the session you're drawn in is going to influence the selection order for those that don't qualify for the 'sprint race'. Regardless of what's being claimed, it's not going to be the same for everyone. Then there's the 'sprint race' itself. What happens if those four riders wipe each other out before the GP starts? In MotoGP you've got far more riders in a race and you can't get them all on the front grid, so timed qualifying is one of the fairer approaches to lining them up, especially as you can put all the riders in one session where the conditions will be the same for everyone. Speedway - for precisely the reasons it takes place on a much smaller track and only has a small number of riders in each race as a result, has evolved a multi-race all-out sprint format. If you really wanted to add some interest to practice, add some extra wildcards and have them race-off for a couple of places in the GP proper.
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I went and thought it was pretty good meeting. Track looked decently prepared and they got through 44 heats (including support) in under 3.5 hours even with grading. Not sure what expectations are these days at the Australian Championships, but seemed to be a fair crowd there. Sam Ermolenko and David Tapp on commentary, although David Tapp kept committing the cardinal sin of yabbering on rather than giving us the race results...
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They did. The Winternapolis I think it was called. I went and still have the programme somewhere, although the racing wasn't the best from memory. I think the track was quite damp and a lot of straw had been used to try to soak up the water and make it rideable.
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Promoters Conference
Humphrey Appleby replied to longmeadow's topic in Speedway News and Discussions
Who indeed cares where they hold their corporate jolly at their own expense? The formal business side of things probably more efficiently be held in a conference room somewhere in the Midlands, but a lot of the actual dealings get done in the bar at these sorts of things. -
Sport related Manslaughter charge
Humphrey Appleby replied to HGould's topic in Speedway News and Discussions
Don't think there should be any debate. If you deliberately set-out to injure someone, whether the street or a sports arena, you should be subject to the full force of the law. Of course there have to be some exceptions like boxing and some martial arts where that's the point of the sport, and of course there's some sports with grey areas like ice hockey where thinly disguised violence is part of the game. But perhaps it's time for ice hockey to reconsider what sort of sport it wants to be. -
Sport related Manslaughter charge
Humphrey Appleby replied to HGould's topic in Speedway News and Discussions
That's why he's been charged with manslaughter rather than murder. I haven't seen the video so not going to make any judgment on the case, but if the intention is to intentionally injure someone and they die as a result, then that is manslaughter. -
The Crooked House Pub
Humphrey Appleby replied to Robert Lee's topic in Speedway News and Discussions
And of course where arson is proved, it's always 'kids' who've broken in to burn the place down... -
UK Speedway in Turmoil?
Humphrey Appleby replied to a4poster's topic in Speedway News and Discussions
I was even including an interval in the 2 hours! You could run 20 heats in 1.5 hours if the will was there. -
UK Speedway in Turmoil?
Humphrey Appleby replied to a4poster's topic in Speedway News and Discussions
Running 4TTs would mean promoters would only have income from 1 home meeting in 4, there would be more riders to pay, and as you say more heats. No matter how many riders you have in a team, someone will get injured and you'll still have to replace them somehow, except that one rider will now represent 25% of your lineup rather than 14% of it, so the relatively impact will be greater on your team. On another note, if speedway can't run 20 heats in under 2 hours, turn it really sums up what's wrong with the sport. -
UK Speedway in Turmoil?
Humphrey Appleby replied to a4poster's topic in Speedway News and Discussions
Of course there's a conundrum in that promoters want - indeed need - their own tracks to be successful, but at the same time there's a need for the sport as whole to make as many teams as possible competitive whilst keeping down cost.. Anything run along such lines is invariably going involves squabbles and unholy compromises. -
UK Speedway in Turmoil?
Humphrey Appleby replied to a4poster's topic in Speedway News and Discussions
I'm sure with a bit of materials research it should be possible to come up with a more rain resistant surface. After all, didn't we hear that the GP shale stored in a scientifically designed pyramid shape? LOL However, there's far more money in cricket and despite advances in drainage and super soppers, rain still stops play. I still think the best solution would be to built some sort of cantilevered canopy over the track. Could be a partial roof like you get over Dutch speed skating circuits, or some lightweight tent sort of structure. -
UK Speedway in Turmoil?
Humphrey Appleby replied to a4poster's topic in Speedway News and Discussions
Well yes lower rpm in principle would contribute to improved reliability, but then riders will complain about a lack of power to spin the wheel etc... I've never ridden speedway though, so can't really comment on the merits of this approach. However... Sealed engines would contribute little of nothing to the problem unless you had a centrally maintained pool of engines at arm's length from the riders. Firstly you're reliant on the honesty of engine tuners when many will have working relationships with particular riders. Okay, you can still unseal an engine to inspect it, but then why do you need to seal it? The next issue is that even if you mandate stock parts, all that will happen is tuners buying up multiple examples to find the best bits to put in their engines. In the world of karting, I can say with an absolute fact that it was cheaper to run in unsealed engine classes than sealed classes, although I would completely agree that the lower revving engines with rev limiters had significantly longer service intervals. I think another question is why riders have to basically replace a significant part of the internals of a speedway engine out of the factory? Presumably this is because the tolerances and quality control leaves something to be desired, but speedway engines are specially built for the purpose and are hardly mass produced. Would have thought if it wasn't necessary to use custom replacements for half the engine, that would also represent a saving? -
UK Speedway in Turmoil?
Humphrey Appleby replied to a4poster's topic in Speedway News and Discussions
It's a good documentary, but I think you'd have to put similar effort into maintaining any sort of racing engine. I'd guess where you could save costs is insisting on stock parts rather than the custom-made bits (e.g. cam shaft) which I assume are expensive to make, but these are never made equal and you'd end-up buying multiple parts to select the best ones anyway. I'd guess you could also try make the engines run longer before needing maintenance which would save a bit on the 5-8 hours manpower each time, but realistically unless you can make an engine last a full season, you're probably only going to be saving GBP 2-3k on the actual labour over a season, which is probably relatively insignificant for a professional rider. -
Finale of UK Speedway ?
Humphrey Appleby replied to old bob at herne bay's topic in Speedway News and Discussions
Went karting at the track next door to the Rye House stadium a couple of months ago. The stadium still looked in fairly good condition (to some extent better than it originally did back in the day ), although huge piles of earth had been dumped all over the track and I think part of the terracing as well. -
Averages. CMA. Greensheet. Rolling.
Humphrey Appleby replied to Diamonds85's topic in Speedway News and Discussions
I'm guessing that averages are normalised to 4 rides as historically that was the number of rides each rider was programmed for (with some exceptions for reserves etc...). Therefore it could be easily understood by the layman as the average contribution a rider made to every match. Even with the later advent of tactical subs and rider replacement, it still makes sense as those are occasional rides that don't happen every meeting. Then nominated heats came along (although I think they were used by some heat formats in the distant past) which distorts the calculation as not only are some riders contributing more actual points on a regular basis, but the nominated ride will generally be harder as it usually involves the best riders of the night. Indeed, I think the averages of the top riders dropped after the nominated heat was introduced on a regular basis in 1988, although that also coincided with fixed gate positions which would also be a reason. I suppose you could add a factor to points scored in the nominated heat to reflect the tougher ride, just as you could add a reducing factor to the reserves race for example to reflect the fact it's a 'easier' ride. But then it further removes the resultant CMA even further from the actual reality of how many points a rider is scoring. In the modern world, I do think it would make more sense to base averages on points-per-ride, but I guess CMAs are traditional and everyone knows the difference between a 10 point rider, 6 point rider, and 3 points rider etc... It would just end-up confusing everyone. Getting back to rolling averages, I think they're complete nonsense although I understand the reasoning which was to remove the early season distortion/potential manipulation when riders have only taken a handful of rides when being issued with a new CMA. However, taking the last x number of meetings really bears little relation to a rider's performance during a whole season, and even more so when the rolling period spans more than one season. A factored CMA would be a better approach where a rider's average at the start of the season (or assessed average) forms part of the CMA, but becomes less of a component as the season progresses. By the end of the season, their CMA would (likely) be their actual average for the season and would also be their starting average for the following season. This way the CMA would always be based on a season's worth of data. -
Methanol is a green fuel!
Humphrey Appleby replied to Ray Stadia's topic in Speedway News and Discussions
Methanol is principle a renewable and clean fuel, but it still produces some CO2 and nitrous oxide. The amount of methanol burned is probably also tiny in comparison to getting the riders and spectators to meetings, although as crowds have declined, arguably the more environmental the sport has become... Speedway should really be thinking about going down the route of electric engines, to which it should be well suited as its short sprints. Okay, you'll need to charge the batteries, but electricity is not all fossil fuel produced. Electric speedway also wouldn't need on-demand power. Tracks could install a wind turbine and/or solar panels and charge up the batteries over the course of the week between meetings. -
Mervyn Stewkesbury RIP
Humphrey Appleby replied to rearingtogo's topic in Speedway News and Discussions
Probably a condolence page is not the place for a critique, but arguably the architect of the 'them-and-us' division between the BL and NL that arguably did not serve the sport well in the long term. Nor the 're-merger' of the BL and NL as a vehicle to get Poole back into the top league at a lower cost. I'm sure there are different sides to the argument that are both valid though. -
At the end of the day though, how is Manchester any different from Cardiff other than the fact that Manchester has better transport links? Belle Vue is fine for domestic speedway and smaller international events, but offers a smaller outdoor stadium outside of the city centre compared to Cardiff.
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Articles in the Sun and Mirror today… https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/22313954/haunting-pics-abandoned-sports-stadium/ https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/other-sports/abandoned-uk-stadium-coventry-speedway-29942720
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Was never a Spurs fan despite living near the ground. Always preferred going to the Arsenal daan the road...
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I lived on White Hart Lane for a while and the area was a terrible dump. I will say that all of the demolition and reconstruction of the area to accommodate the new stadium does seem to have improved it.
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I'd say Wembley is a very good stadium - for football and other rectangular sports. Everything around Wembley is less good - overpriced and overcrowded eateries and hotels, the ready mix concrete plant, and all the industrial units housing tacky businesses. The stadium is in principle quite well served for transport, with both National Rail and Underground stations nearby, but as you say, the National Rail station doesn't really seem to work that well. Wembley is the best stadium in London, although the Emirates pushes it pretty close and you've got the option of walking there from various places. The former Olympic Stadium would probably be better for speedway though.
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There's probably not more than 25,000 semi-regular speedway fans in Britain nowadays, and that's being generous. There's an ever diminishing number who 'used to go' - the Cardiff GP would suggest 10-15k, plus a properly promoted Wembley might get the interest of a few thousand new spectators willing to give it a go. I'd agree London is much more accessible and arguably more attractive to foreign fans, so you'd probably also pick up a fair few more there too. But I don't realistically think you'd get more than 50k, maybe 60k absolute tops. I'd agree with you about the air of hostility in Wales. I don't want to over-generalise as I go to Wales a lot and only once have directly experienced any issues, but there does seem to be an underlying air of menace in even small towns there. I don't think it's particularly directed at the English because the local youth mostly seem to want to abuse each other.
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Would have thought that largely sustained it as can't imagine that a couple of cup finals, rugby league and maybe 4-5 internationals per year would have paid all the bills. Of course concerts became a thing in later years, which I'd have thought would have done far more damage to the pitch than speedway! Even then, Wembley was probably only viable as it was purchased for a bargain basement price (equivalent of 10-20 million today). So it really only needed to recoup its operating and maintenance costs. By contrast, the new Wembley cost 800 million so no wonder they're trying to maximise use of it.
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Depends when you mean. Up until the 1950s, I think England rarely played at Wembley, but after that until the old stadium closed, they very rarely didn’t. Obviously whilst Wembley was being redeveloped after 2001 then England played all over the place, but since the new stadium has opened they’ve played all but two home matches at the new Wembley.