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Has been very interesting observing MrB's MO on here overtime. Very.

Dig deeper! Who said he was? Never mentioned in the post.

Of course. Plus 5 bed detached house in Bearsden, masseuse, physio, carribean holiday.

Okie Dokie! Smokie Smokie!

Hokie Cokie?Hokey pokey? Okie dokie!

Really!

If Edinburgh want £40K for Cook then someone needs to get the West Lothian police drug squad round to the Scotwasted Monarchs stadium pronto.

I liked him. And who could ever forget the PL Final leg at Ashfield when Craig Cook fell on his butt whilst chasing him!

Certainly intriguing!

Unless of course he goes to Armadale and does a Two Kevs. James Sarjeant now announcing he won't be a Tiger next year. Good luck James. Once a Tiger, always a Tiger!

Victor announcing on FB he won't be a Tiger in 2016. Good luck to him! Once a Tiger, always a Tiger!

Ah but the point is, there may not be any need for excuses now.

Or the start of the season!

You could've saved a lot of bandwidth, and the potential forthcoming comment from another member saying "get a room"

No, you make unfounded discussions you can't or won't back up and make disparaging remarks about folks who're prepared to put their necks on the line. But, hey ho.

You give the impression you don't do discussion.

No credentials, no evidence ... just more supposition.

Wow! A few "mental" people out their then. Like to see you stack your credentials against theirs.

As I said, an ex-promoter "liked" my post. This discussion isn't really getting off the ground is it? You've made a point in here ... good! It's a discussion forum, so I'm trying to discuss it. So do you want to back up your point with evidence so we can have a discussion?

An ex-promoter has just liked my last post, so read into that what you will. I never suggested you should accept you were wrong here's what I posted ... "If you can't accept that fine." Why not just provide some factual evidence to back your claim about promoters motivation?

No it's not. It's for everyone to start on an equal footing as best as possible and all that goes with that i.e. to prevent buying the league. No one is suggesting you don't have financial nous. You said ... "Of course trophies are the top priority." I'm putting forward an alternative view. If you can't accept that fine. If you go down the route of "personal" in preference to putting forward evidence to back your claim, then accept that others won't change their POV.

Not patronising, realistic observations based on your posting content. Winning isn't everything, for example, they have to protect their investment for future on-sale. If winning was everything, why not break the bank one year and go for broke? History suggests you're wrong. If not, why not give some examples? As I keep saying we should agree to differ.

Facennas not a realistic example of a typical promoter. They've personally financed a club through their other business. So why do the promoters who's teams haven't won a trophy, on an annual basis open for business the following year? Year in, year out? Based on your theory they would close or sell up. Hmm! Haven't seen that happening. Unless you can prove otherwise. Don't think you have a realistic view on finance. You have a fans POV, not one of someone investing your own money and time. Very simplistic and totally risk free. But as I said, we'll agree to differ.

Think we'll need to agree to differ. Ask any promoter who's invested his own money what he'd prefer. Win a trophy, but it means financial difficulty for the following year and uncertainty, or keep your head above water financially long term but no trophies. No brainer.

In all seriousness, are trophies the top priority? For the majority of speedway fans not lucky enough to support a team that has regularly won trophies, and are therefore not in your enviable position, survival would be top. I've always said I want entertainment first and foremost, and a team of 7 triers to be proud of. This year I've had both and a stadium and promotion to be proud of. That feeling lingers more than losing out on any trophies ... honest. As for entertainment, in 2011 when we won the league, attendances started falling off as the season got to the business end ... I can't vouch for everyone else, but for me meetings were getting boring, away teams were getting hammered FTG. As a Rangers supporter of over 40 years, (I'll assume you're not an old fart like me) I saw more success than you ever have with speedway. 6-0, 5-1, 4-0, week in, week out got boring. Only matches worth going to were Old Firm and Champions League. I gave up my season ticket of 20+ years at the height of the success - totally bored with it. Might sound strange, but since administration, starting from the bottom league has been much more interesting.