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I watched several times now and I'd say Pedersen drifted wide deliberately.

I do like Jan as a co-commentator. But if he is going to do the job he needs to call it as it is with Pedersen. What's the problem Jan?

Oh dear! BSF resident psychoanalyst is back. Why not leave that to the experts who know what they're doing, Dekker?

Try reading the post and believing what you read! Not that hard? Or is it?

1. Good, glad we agree they're out of order which is the point I made until you brought in point scoring. That's time I'll never get back. 2 Read your own post - "you make a big play on the taking new ppl angle but mostly its excuses as to why you don't" a. They're not new people they've been before!!!!!! b. It's not an excuse. If their mothers don't want them to go it's not an excuse, it's a reason. c. I've brought plenty of new people to Edinburgh in the many years it's been at Armadale. Have you? Must try harder Dekker! Suppose you can't say anything positive about a Tiger bringing new people to Edinburgh, you'd lose face on the MoanZone. Deplorable you've had threatening PMs from Glasgow fans, not acceptable. End of. I wasn't referring to you in PMs context rather what had been written in one about me which was totally untrue. I don't even know the originator! You actually are going on about the bad language at Edinburgh. By the frequency of your posts you've succeeded in raising its profile. Can I not comment on what another member posted this morning and refer to my recent experience! This is the BSF, not the MoanZone. Here you don't have to follow the three line whip, eh! Finally, just Googled "chip on shoulder" and first result took me to your BSF Profile Page.

1. The onus shouldn't be on me to report, your fellow supporters should behave in an appropriate manner in the first place! 2. Have NEVER used as an excuse not to bring new supporters NEVER! Utter bollards! Show me where this was posted! 5. Aye exactly! I'll bet I've put more money in the Edinburgh fuel fund than you've paid at the gate. But let's not let facts like that get in the way of your preconceived agenda!

1. Read previous posts to get your facts right, then you'll post from a knowledge based point of view rather than a biased one. 2. Was commenting on someone else's post, a Monarch at that! Have you ever thought that the bad language happens on so many visits that it is actually a current topic! Oh and by the way, I was commenting on the lost business to your club!!! But of course you don't see that do you? No, you don't even see that I'm bringing new speedway supporters to your club!!! Such negativity! How often do you or any of your fellow Monarchs actually go to Ashfield for a 'neutral' meeting? Never mind even try to bring new people to speedway at the same venue? Aye, exactly!! Did you see my previous post about bringing a friend and his family to Armadale using the Groupon voucher? Aye exactly! That's a true speedway supporter! So don't talk to me about partisan. Your lot don't even go to support their team at Ashfield. Oh yeah, don't tell me, that's because someone upset them once! Do you see a pattern here with Monarchs fans giving someone else's doings as a reason for not doing something. And while we're at it how often do you go to Armadale? At least I was at these meetings in the first place! Putting money into the coffers of the Auld Enemy to boot!! Don't talk to me about partisan, actions speak louder than trolling one liners!

Every time I mention this subject it gets a partisan response from the head in the sand supporters. It doesn't make it right wherever it happens! Come Dekker, surely you're above descending to the depths of points scoring on this particular matter? Good on him if he does, it's what I'd expect from him! LOL! Try reading some other threads and avoid selective memory! When do you post more than one line put downs? Come to think of it, when do you post more than one line? When do you do anything other than troll? And even scores with other posters? When do you post anything you've not read on Updates or elsewhere on the internet? When do you actually go to a meeting? Dragging every Monarchs thread down? LOL! I'll bow to your superior knowledge on dragging things down and general negativity. Simply from personal experience, if they dish out they should have the RS McColls to take it back. And they shouldn't make false untrue claims to other posters in PMs!! If it takes one man's posts for them to leave the forum you're either a lesser man than I give you credit for, for believing that schoolgirl tell-taling. Or they weren't very committed to the forum in the first place. There is also an ignore button they can use. On the postiive side .... At least you've stopped psychoanalysing other posters recently.

Me wonders if the same sentiments apply when it's an Edinburgh rider?

Between Hancock and Holder for me. Could go either way, I'll opt for a determined Greg! Fancy THJ will cause a few upsets, good chance of getting to the semis and who knows from there. Could be interesting when he races Pedersen!

An honest man! Know exactly how you feel about the "vile and venom" at Armadale. I've posted on here several times about sections of the Edinburgh support whose language is totally inappropriate for a family support. What makes it worse in my personal experience is they're mature people who should simply know better when kids are standing next to them. I no longer take my daughter and at Matty's testimonial I brought the brother in law who was visiting us. He has three kids who wanted to come. The better halves refused due to past experience. So that was 4 lost customers. In addition to one potential regular customer. JDC and Harkess, get your house in order! Your own fans are losing you business! Now the Edinburgh Defence Association will say I'm having a dig. No I'm not! Cut out the emotion guys and get your head out the sand. Oh, I've just remembered, they don't come on the BSF anymore because of people like me who speak their mind and don't think all things Edinburgh speedway are perfect. That's three honest Edinburgh posters we've seen of late, msc1874 and Ekimba too. Why is it they have to qualify their posts when giving an honest opinion? i.e. "Puts tin hat on" What's wrong with giving an honest opinion? Is the peer pressure of the wrong type from some Edinburgh posters on here? If they put their watches back would that not make them late for the meeting?

Incredible bad luck. EFs for James are as rare as rocking horse doodah.

Agree with relaxing the rules totally. I pay to watch 4 riders race, not "cheating" or using the rules to advantage (recent World Cup fiasco). Yes I know it happens, but I don't agree with it! I wasn't at the meeting last night, but if I had been it would have been as neutral and there to watch racing. Assuming there was cheating (don't doubt others, just didn't see it myself) then I'd be well hacked off. As for fines, like all forms of punishment they're supposed to act as a deterrent. So make a fine a real deterrent. Make riders/promoters think twice. And also put out of reach of a fans wipe round. Deliberately stay down - Fine £2,000. Yes I know, some will now say it's all about opinions and what if the ref gets it wrong. Well that's the tail wagging the dog. £2,000 fine and you'll see a lot more riders trying to get off the track pronto.

Joke in there somewhere.

£300 quid! When did that become a fine? What did they do? Park on double yellows outside the stadium?

We've not been seeing so much of this in 2012. Suppose we're getting to the business end of the season. Can't stand it myself.

Best - Starting the season as PL Champions Worst - Finishing with the 'For Sale' sign outside Ashfield.

Good win for the Monarchs, they are on form at just the right time.

... and not even 4th June!

Awh come on Dekker, that reply was so predictable. You can do better than that!

Theory on the way to being proved right Dekker, After Heat 9 ...... Monarchs 37 Bears 18

Agents Grieves and Sitera doing the business.

I can never understand why anyone would want to steal a speedway bike, unless of course they just cease the opportunity not knowing what it is they're knicking?

Thanks Steve good to see. Is picture 110 Nicki P's new 'hairdryer'?

Is someone who wears a condom a Dick Barrie?