stevebrum

afraid so. looks like he is giving his shoulder a few more weeks to recover. Hes got to ensure he is right for the season proper tho.

Well i was looking forward to getting down for this but it looks like howe wont be riding now. looks like harris will be unchallenged then!

I take it you are now not going to call scott the beggar anymore now he has qualified of his own right.

looking forward to this - as i always do. PK all the way for me with bomber 2nd and nicholls 3rd. I feel woffinden will suprise a few and finish in the top 5. looking forward to seeing klindt again and ludvig - wolf of the future no doubt.

Just wanted to add that the russians were great value. surely only a few years away from moving above the british team at this rate.

Just wanted to add that the russians were great value. surely only a few years away from moving above the british team at this rate.

you bet! bring back the max!!! Proven international ? stead? eh? sorry but nobody knows what effort Howie would have put in IF he was fit and ridden. so your argument is just suposition.

on averages you cant do anything but!!! Anyway good luck for Monday boys, ill be there cheering on ALL the boys. GET WELL SOON HOWIE

Cheers, well yea, thats the exact reason why i bought up the point of how well both would do in a 2nd heat leader or 1st role. Agreed also that both have terrific home form - my only point on that is that david seems more consistent away than lee does this year. But in theory i agree with you. As for going to Cov - yea i may do if the weather improves! as the 3rd highest averaged brit yea hes scoring well away as well this year in case you hadnt noticed is this old chestnut STILL coming up As ive explained my reasons Orion in the lengthy post - if you choose to read thru it it might just give you the answers that you are seeking. But thanks for taking the highlighted parts of my arguments and ignorng the facts ive explained since. Priceless

Steve there is no disputing that Ed has potential, thats obvious. IM disputing wether he is ready for the WTC. Middlo said he would pick riders on form. Howe IS still averaging more than kennett and has chosen not to do the GP qualifiers, which david did and should get reward for that. Stead is way off form, so its hard to fathom Middlos logic. yes, i did say thats IS his specialism. And thats probably the reason why he has been picked. You did read the post didnt you??!! what has kennett or stead done on the big stage, funny you dont mention them. Seb, i think i AM taking an objective view!! Why pick out my bickering posts when there are posts bitching about david As always!!! Cant others take an objective view also instead of a biased one????? To explain my `objective view` further then. Too an extent i agree with you with going with the top 4 averaged Brits on paper - they will have earned the right to be considered a top 4 placing. I thought the whole idea of making the British Final credible again was to REWARD those that qualified (one to get the wild card and others to get thru to the GP qualifiers). Howe as 3rd best brit on average you can say DESERVED the wild card and should be, in my opinion , being pushed by the GB mananager. But no, instead he picks his own team rider that doesnt even want to do the GP qualifiers because he isnt ready for it!!! Who says he is ready to face the big stage then on that equation??? Richardson has always come up with the goods on the WTC stage, i grant you and for that reason alone he probably deserves his place (much in the same way that scottie derserves his place in the GPS as being top Brit). However my only worry with lee is that im never convinced that his form is good enough come the start of the WTC - however ive already acknowledged that he HAS stepped up to the plate each year and for that reason ALONE should have a top 5 place. IF and IF middlo is trying to bring the kids or the younger riders on then realistically only scott and bomber should be definates with the likes of kennett, howe and stead as the next generation, allen, king and then bridger as be gaining experience too. by continueing to use Lee , in my opinion, is a backward step for team GB. There is no denying that Lee does still have some quality, however in a team as strong as Swindon he is well supported. It would be interesting to see how he would perform as a main or 2nd heat leader, as he would in some teams on average this season. However likewise id be also interested to see how well Howie would do in the same position as it happens. As for your comment at the end of your post - not at all!! IF Lee scores 12 , top scores and we go thru - ill be very happy yet still suprised. However if david rode and scored 8 and we went thru id be equally happy. It would be nice for Howie to pushed on the big stage for once , especially now he is in the form of his life. But of course that wont stop people from knocking him. See how there are people that will STILL knock him no matter how well he does, no different to people bickering about richardson - dont you think??!!!

snd he wasnt at the start of the season. well pointed out - but we ALL knew that

typical of the POOLE/GB manager. What biased rubbish. Howe is 3rd best brit - so he has earned a full call up. Have to disagree - he was NOT outclassed at Cardiff! He didnt finish last overall and he past riders and tried in 3 races. Thats NOT outclassed Doubt stead OR kennett would have acored much more as it happens. Kennett is not ready yet - however i agree he should get a chance. But as 4th or 5th choice. WHY OH WHY is lere richardson in? its no wonder we never get anywhere if we continue to use those who have proved they cant cut it on the big stage. YES YES i know - the WTC seems to be richos crowning glory. That surely is the only reason he is in. I believe thats a backward step to take. Its the side i expected Middlo would pick - but for him to say Kennett `picked himself1 - funny , id say the same thing about howe

belated congratulations. Top notch entertainment.

yawnsville. i think most of his distractors at the start of the season have been proved wrong - and yes i know im one of them. ive stated several times i was wrong on that one. However on the flip side to that show me a post that said he would be good enough to get a top 5 placing

Nonsense! Nowt politically incorrect about it at all. BOMBER it is!!!

that was magical!!! As for pedersen and his usual excuses. Him failing not to get into the final - couldnt happen to a better person

Sad sad news, Just catching up and yet another tragedy. Condolences to the Olsson family. RIP Kenny.

superb point blazeaway! EVERY track will give at least 1 rider home track advantage in a big competition. except for the one off tracks off course. Nothing tarnished now, i think we can ALL agree

Sorry but I always do with your posts as they are so interesting. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> i will take that as a compliment even tho i know its not Gemini licky? im proud to support and know the bloke. If thats licky then so be it Why would the referee have excluded anyone anyway? 1st bend incident. Why would it have made a difference? kennett would have still been beaten by Howe. See, you have your opinion and i have mine. Yours aint right and nor is mine!!

Best get a move on to the loo quickly then. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> trust you to read EVERY word!!!!! yes, its terrible to be proud to support a rider. Ill leave any reproduction to Davids lovely girlfriend

NOTHING is certain! what a presumptive post!! Whos to say that David now wont go on and establish himself as a TRUE contender? Comparing the 2 isnt fair you are right. David is still WAY ahead of ed, as he should be at this stage of his career and ed has a fair way to go to get to that level still. In your opinion. He might just shock everyone. However as a wild card he isnt geared up fully like a GP rider is normally. YES i know our freddie got 3rd last time however that was on a PROPER track, not a man made one. A huge experience for him. As enjoying his day - im sure he will. However you do know now that he is in the GP qualifiers and its STILL his goal to get there. I STILL believe he can get there, and ill gloat if he qualifies on merit. Its one of his aims and an idiot would bet against him having a good go. Good god, howies not exactly over the hill. He is STILL on the way up!!!! Nowt retrogressive about it at all. So what? its just another opinion. He had a SLIGHT advantage, thats all. David, as always a REAL and TRUTHFUL post. Your a top bloke mate and a pleasure to speak too. And like you say, only a SLIGHT home advantage for you then. The cov boys know it just as well!!! There will ALWAYS be slaters on here but who cares!!! YOUR GOING TO CARDIFF. I was proud as punch on monday and ill be beaming from ear to ear in cardiff. Now, go win thru them qualifiers and lets have you in the GPS!!!!!!! No pressure of course! YOU know i know you can do it same here LW! The bloke is now starting to loo the whole package. its coming!

Howe deserves it. FULL STOP How assumptive! Howe would have been on it on ANY track . I agree to both. BEST 2 riders on show. i agree that this is a pathetic post. we are ALL glad you wont be at cardiff. theyve been off for 2 years easily. His onlty saving grace is that his form in the WTC is very good. Id still say NO to him - give it riders in form, nothing to lose, all to gain. Me too. totally agree. agreed agreed agreed. Ive already said my personal WELL DONE to Howie and he was VERY EXCITED!!!! He greeted me with `GUESS WHOS GOING TO CARDIFF?` i said yes i KNOW, ive gotta get tickets now!!! Bomber was a deserved champion . He will have my applause at Cardiff too. Thats 2 occassions a BEE will get my support . But for David. The boy has come of age. Can we perhaps all get behind the guy now????

Think most peoples sensible money would be on Howie. Have to say tho that stead, kennet will be all out for that spot too. Have a feeling that Screenie could spring a suprise too! top 3 of HARRIS, NICHOLLS, HOWE.

If he rode in the EL he might be in. Gotta give those guys that have ambition to ride at the very highest level the chance. im not biting! diddums. King in the top flight, compton from the PL. No contest really. Havelock is STILL capable of doin a job in EL and reprsents his country - plus as ex world champ he should be there! I agree. I think on ANY track its his best chance particulary on the form he is on. But on his home track i agree its a superb opportunity. But Kennett a better rider? Not yet by any definition. GOOD LUCK HOWIE I agree, harris to win a run off against Nicholls. Howe on the rostrum too.

oh you know me so well!!! True orion. It will be a HUGE task and it will be the same if the final was at Swindon - Richardson would be expected to walk it. Whoever is up to the task will get it and good luck to WHOEVER gets the Cardiff slot. Tho ill be in Howies camp you understand!