stevebrum

Makes no difference in the big scheme of things Pedersen signing in the UK is a massive coup and only strengthens that genuine list to 3, 4 if you add in Kildemand.

What a surprise that you would pipe up. So it will be the usual I’m always right posts from now on till you think you win. The point of the quoted points was to show why I can’t take Lisa’s comments seriously when she changes the goal posts to suit any reply. You can choose to accept my original point or not. It’s not a scientific fact that’s for sure.

Happy to disagree, thankfully averages back up my claims.

I take it you forgot about Pedersen?

Jacob has had 2 ruined seasons with injury. Masters went backwards this year but still forward on 4 years ago. So it’s fair to suggest both still improved after 4 years.

Here was my original comment. A ‘general’ comment that doesn’t state most. You asked for examples. These were 3 examples that got posted before I could add. 3 examples given yet you don’t accept those as ‘proper’ examples. Doyle wasn’t young. Again, another goal post changer. Perfect example of what was asked. More lies and made up info. No one EVER said every rider. Only Lisa. As previously discussed I’m not going to bother wasting my time researching averages because all you will do is not accept names put forward, make excuses because they might or might not have improved, say they are too young etc blah de blah. You make stuff up (every rider) and then ignore examples. I’ve no intention of wasting my time on this because you want to prove a point. You already lost the point by ignoring examples given. Hopefully this nonsense will get the thread close ASAP. Not before yet another blue tint response.

As averages have proved stats don’t lie. Masters 3 out of 4 seasons improved. Thorssell 2 out of 4.

You make a fair point obviously! Some are trying to use just one variable as an excuse, which of course it isn’t. Jacob had a huge increase in the PL from 2016 -2017. To suggest he hasn’t improved in 4 seasons is quite plainly crackers!

Even tho it would appear to be weaker there have still been quality riders join our league in the most recent years. Such as Woryna and Milik who came back in low averages but were already making big strides abroad. Greg (Poole) and Tai (Wolves) have also made appearances. Obviously I’d prefer we encourage more top riders back which would have a positive knock on in attendance and there is no bigger supporter of a stronger league than me. Next year WILL be stronger because NP is back, no arguing. So obviously I completely agree with your point. Therefore I find it hard to agree with those who comment that riders don’t improve and use a weaker league as an excuse. Doyle’s average should be nearly 12 each season if we use the logic of others!

Stop using the 4 year combined average as a reason. Dress it up how you want. masters improved his average for 3 years running from 2016-2018 - how has that not improved at all? Using your same argument Doyle should increase his average every year because the league has weakened. Has he? You can’t use one reason for not increasing (weakened league) without the other variables such as injury etc. Masters went from 7.08 to 8.11 from 2016 - 2018. That’s over a point increase. So that’s no improvement at all? Very odd way of looking at things.

Clearly the average over 4 years has increased for both so this no improvement statement is still false. Dress it up all you want, Masters improved year on year for 3 straight seasons, but not this. It’s hard for anyone to argue different. Jacob as previously pointed out hasn’t improved in 2 seasons (from his average of 2017).

If you only caught part of it then you don’t know what the point is. She suggested that it will be a struggle to name any riders that have and straight away names were given. She then changed the goalposts to ask for more names. Unless you’ve read the whole thread then best not comment. I’ve no intention in getting into yet another pointless discussion about this. Whether my original comment is right or wrong, Lisa won’t accept that she got it wrong that no one could name any riders. It’s pointless getting into a debate with someone who changes the goal posts with every post. The facts are she said I’d struggle to name any and names have been mentioned but won’t accept she was wrong. Anyway, it’s beyond juvenile and about time this thread was locked or moved to the CL.

There clearly was doubt.

Yet again, quoting irrelevant points. The facts are in the PL he improved every season on the trot until this season. Whether he is a better rider overall is a very different argument. The fact you mentioned he hasn’t improved for WOLVES is completely wrong. Backed up by averages. Masters seems to have plateaued in his career and wether he can kick on again is a very different debate too.

You were shown up and yet still carry on bleating. We get it, you can’t take being corrected when you have been proved wrong. Must be a biased blue trait. Hopefully all your inane ramblings will get the thread locked, so it’s a win win.

Yes I agree. Jacob hasn’t really kicked on but Masters had 3 years continuous of improvement until this season and hopefully he can add more again next season.

As proven 100% wrong regards Masters. Only this season has his average dropped in 4 seasons. What he does in the championship and abroad is irrelevant to his proven top flight record.

Wrong, the averages say different. Masters improved every year from 2016 - 2018. 7.18 to 7.92 to 8.11. It was only this season that his average dropped. Jacob climbed from 7.06 to 8.64 a huge climb in 2017 but hasn’t improved on that the past 2 seasons although he did increase his average slightly this season from 2018.

You were proved wrong yet still bleat on.

Agree they are real reasons, which to me says he probably is well past his best. He seemed to go missing in meetings when the conditions or track didn’t suit him plus of course he was hardly committed to Kings Lynn. Ditto. Some seem to think it’s common knowledge. Seems odd that it isn’t common knowledge.

Must pay attention

Yep edited. Which changes the information.

Apologies. 2018.

I’d agree, he wouldn’t be a poor signing for any club. Just the commitment the issue. As discussed know one has more experience of British tracks than Iversen. You have a point regards Foxhall tho. home average 8.73, away 5.60. So Foxhall wasn’t the issue. looking at his 2019 stats in full for Ipswich. Home average 8.00 from 4 matches. Away average 5.43 from 3 matches. His 7 match Ipswich average (all competitions) is 6.97.

Don’t think he bothers here anymore. He is prolific on the Wolves Facebook sites. Must admit I’m surprised at the comment. I just think they were planning to use Nicol whatever happened which to me seems odd planning. Huge pressure on Broc or the other 6 which is unfair either way. Unless the management know something we don’t know it all seems very odd planning. Unless of course there is still a surprise to come at number one although given the comments made it seems both Sam and Jacob will be included. My own personal thoughts however is that they still have fully committed to both of them because you can sure one of them will be at Ippo/Lynn/Peterborough and they too are holding back announcements. Could be a coincidence of course.