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Kennett and Garrity is a decent start for Rye and if Nelson comes over that's another decent rider. However if Len stays true to form I expect the rest of your side to be the same old mediocre from recent years. I personally hope Rye bring in some fresh blood but then I dare say most of you guys are hoping the same!

I think that's fair and I've often been quoted as saying I'd sooner see an entertaining team get beat than a boring team win. Simota can provide memorable moments but I do think he requires a degree of 'carrying', he really needs to be more consistent home and away. That said if we can come up trumps with the rest of the top 5 we may just be OK. But providing all goes well this weekend at the AGM I think we can pencil in Newman, Simota and Benko for sure.

To be fair I did post that over a month ago. It was more of a 'wish list' than anything else. Popular doesn't make you good value. He is coming in on an average of 6.10 which was basically obtained from home form at reserve. He has been poor at most away tracks and starting in the 1-5 will only see that average drop. He is great when the track suits but when it's too slick or wet Simota goes missing. On song he is great to watch but that hasn't been often enough especially away. I think there are better, more consistent options out there on better averages. But you're right he will be in the side next season as will Benko.

I'm with you all the way mate, Kyle is the only one I'd retain as the others haven't shown enough to warrant a return or in Simota's case I just don't see him improving on an average of over 6 in the main body. As I put on the Devils site the side I want to see (money no object) would be... Robson R Worrall Newman Wells Birks Boxall Shanes I know Wells asked for silly money last season so doubt that would change and getting Boxall away from Rye on any kind of decent machinery is near enough impossible but one can only hope! All I do hope is that we go all round strength rather than big number 1 but as you say it's all about the £££!

Very interesting if true HT. I like Lee and generally always offer my support when others get on his back but if it took a fan to state the glaring obvious (I know a good few of us on the back straight were expecting the TR too) then this is a bit of a hiccup!

I've never been a fan of James Wright and that was even when I witnessed him win the PLRC at Swindon many moons ago. Has steadily gone backwards but that said given Roynon's form I guess we have nothing to lose. The criticism of Benko is very harsh imo. At Plymouth he was a great asset scoring big points although his away form is, I'll grant you, woeful. He has an average and is an asset so I'd like to see him back next year if possible. I love the attitude of Shanes and I'm delighted to see him getting a shot although I think given Benko's home form this may be a step back before we move forward again. Bit meh imo as doesn't really make us much stronger but not much out there sadly! Anyone know why Wright is coming out of retirement? Is his equipment going to be up to it? Is he going to be committed to Plymouth? Been on the cards for a while!

Benko is likely to be fit in a couple of weeks so no point really. Also I think we would be more likely to give James Shanes a run as after all that is why we have an NL team (or at least that is the theory).

Always difficult to replace a 3 pointer for a 3 pointer and see a vast improvement so unlikely to make a huge difference to the Comets. Two changes were needed imo to see any real difference.

Dave Robinson should not referee again, absolute disgrace with some of the decisions made. Excluding someone for laying the bike down for not being under power when the red lights came on is abysmal. Some terrible luck coupled with awful referee decisions made difficult viewing at times. Hope Stefan, Kalle and Adam are all okay for next weekend as there were some nasty crashes there. Point of note, I disagree with the updates regarding Kalle having time to not hit Adam, as he came around bend 2 and the dust cleared he had very little chance to miss him and think it's harsh to say otherwise.

Updates will be here... http://speedwayupdates.proboards.com/thread/13373/plymouth-scunthorpe-pl-23-15pm

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Hmm not convinced at Simota at 5, I'd have put Rasmus at 5 myself but hey ho. I really hope the weather holds off as I think this has the makings of a belter even without Fricke. Kyle has tweeted that he is riding!

We do indeed look a very good side on paper now. Amazing what one signing can do!

They can re-declare him all they want but did he even know!? You can't ban someone if they don't even know they have been re-declared in a 1-7. If Roynon gets banned for this then this would be an all time low for the BSPA. Sheffield Speedway and the MC have clearly buggered this up so they should be the ones held accountable. Sounds fair - Take off the 3 points R/R got and leave it there. Probably the fairest way to resolve things.

Apologies, we can only go on what we are told. I spoke to someone at the track afterwards who said heat 15 was a belter. None the less the result was correct, although not what I wanted, so that will do for me

Bloody hell it's all gone off in here! I guess I speak in the minority when I say I'm a supporter of speedway and not just my local club. I have often gone to neutral tracks and taken in meetings that have no bearing on my local club purely because it's the sport that gets me first, my local club second. I go for entertainment and if my team are riding and are able to win then even better! I appreciate that people want to see their team win and when they don't scape goats are looked for and found. Look at Edinburgh (nothing against the Monarchs), they are flying yet Aaron Fox is barely scoring a point. Their supporters may be concerned about his form but they are supportive of him because the team is doing well. If we'd won all our matches would we all be over Ben Reade like we are? When this team were put together most on here, in the speedway star and elsewhere said we'd be bottom or 2nd bottom when it comes to the league. They said Benko wouldn't get a point and that the team was just not good enough. Right now that's not the case, we had a good win at Rye House (who granted are poor at the mo) and got a point at a 'so-called' strong Somerset. Facts are facts and that is that in the League Cup this season Plymouth have gained more points than they have ever done in this competition since they joined the PL. Now the group may be bigger than previously but our record is far better than previously. In fact had we beaten Ipswich at home we could well be in the semi finals with a win on this Friday. Reade sadly is out of his depth at the moment but given Simota and Benko don't get new averages until after Friday why start bashing the lack of changes? Surely it was obvious that the plan was to await these guys to get averages before looking to change things? Should things work out we could have Benko and Newman at reserve, hardly weak! Plus a top 5 of Barker, Jensen, AN Other, Katajisto and Simota. That is not a bad side and in fact probably the best on paper Plymouth have had. We always hear about lots of riders available, why don't we sign them etc. Sometimes we need to actually realise the rider decides regardless of the deal on the table. I know for a fact that two good riders we went after this season decided to go elsewhere for a lower pay rate because the travel was easier for them and who'd blame them! It's not always money! I am shocked at the timing of the comments from the promotion regarding crowds and I hope they can get out there and bring the fans back by promoting the club to the local people but we all saw with Newport that sometimes throwing money at a top team that delivers silverware isn't always sustainable and a club is better than no club. Time will tell and hopefully things improve, for me I'd like to see bends 1&2 bladed as it's too bumpy and may perhaps be putting riders off giving it a rip!

Following Friday's match with P'boro, Benko and Simota are likely to free up around 4 points in total which added to our current free points, will allow us to replace Ben Reade with a rider of around 7.5 - Davies or even Roynon would be nice!

Roynon to Plymouth in place of Ben Reade please

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I'd be very very surprised if our team remains with the same 7 riders after Kalle moves up. With averages as they are we may just be able to squeeze Alex Davies (if he is still coming over) in for Ben Reade. That could well see Kyle at reserve so we won't be weaker at reserve at all. Big IF mind you!

Regarding Allen, to be fair we thought the same but it was one of a whole host of errors from the ref. I didn't understand why he put the red lights on mid race, we were all wondering why some riders slowed but others didn't, bizarre. Fair one on the tapes, I've not been there but in the heat that he pulled them back I thought the tapes went up fine. Anyway refereeing decisions shouldn't take away from a decent meeting where we were far more competitive than I thought we'd be!

This is quite frankly laughable! Calling the referee biased for making these calls and claiming hard done by for the others is hilarious. Najjer sometimes you still amaze me with your incredibly one-sided posts claiming to be hard done by - Tonight Ronnie Allen made some disgraceful calls against the Devils and yet you claim hard done by. The Kurtz brothers jumped at least five starts between them. Yes they were pulled back on some but Brady in heat 3 should have been pulled back on a blatant jump. Todd then jumps again later on in the evening after getting a warning and suddenly they claim the tapes didn't work properly to avoid an exclusion! After that I grant you there were issues but the tapes went up fine in that race! Olly Allen had both wheels over the white line in his 3rd race coming off bend 2, it was so obvious you could even see where he'd crossed, but the ref says nothing and the Rebels got a 5-1. I have no idea what happened with the Kalle decision in heat 14 so that one I'll give you but in heat 15 Vissing gave Jensen a shove, there was contact and Vissing should have gone. More often than not he would have! A good meeting with some excellent racing but some very odd refereeing decisions - I thought both guest number ones did themselves proud, Vissing and Wethers were excellent value! I thought Benko was unlucky tonight and deserved more for his efforts. He has pleasantly surprised me - Simota though.....

To be fair Jensen has been pretty solid everywhere - The other two, hmm...