kevin bass

That's one way of putting it

Ronni was just as dirty as his brother at times tbf, i'll always remember when Cradley came up to Foxhall and Ben faced Hancock and Hamill, he was never a gater but managed to jump out ahead of to 2 Yanks and held them off even with a misfiring motor, ive not seen or heard anything about him for yrs, he must be in his late 40's now.

As of last wk Holder still hadn't signed a contract, he may of agreed a deal in principle ages ago but until he signs on the dotted line he ain't a Panther, haps he waited on who's gonna be running the show and paying his wages b4 he commits to anything official, who knows.

Knew someone would come up with proof that he rode, i didn't think he rode many meetings

Sure it was Kalina but he didn't last long in the team, haps he only rode in a few challenge matches and no actual league matches b4 being replaced.

Yes looking back at old Hackney teams thru the yrs it has him down in the 91 team, only rode 7 matches tho with an average of 5.81

Haps them ment they have a line up that's gonna get smashed every match

I'm sure Gino posted he had a team in the UK sorted a while back but like been said only a couple of options left in Plymouth or Birmingham.

Siggy has been saying for ages, probably months, that Holder hasn't signed a contract as such, Holder may have agreed verbally to sign but until he signs on the dotted line for someone he hasn't signed for anyone.

So even if Holder signed there's points going to waste, isn't Holders average 7 odd, last average i could find was 7.47 in 2015 with Poole

Oh bugger, big shoes to fill for whoever takes over the role of reporting/following the speedway news.

What's happened with Mike Bacon Baldy

Scary thing is that it feels like yesterday when you start to remember the names but it's like 30 plus yrs ago now

Wasn't it Kalina who joined the witches the same time as fellow Czech Sam Tesar.

I can beat that, what about when Kevin Teager came back, he actually had a few decent meetings tbf.

Showing my age a bit now but as i mentioned Ben Howe earlier what ever happened to Jerran Hart, i remember he got sent down a few yrs ago but he was the next big thing as a 15/16yr old, there's been many a young lad second half round Foxhall at 15/16yr old and have different levels of success as a speedway rider, Loram, Louis, Howe, Tacey, Clouting, Lanham, King and most recently Kemp.

Andre Pollehn was another dud, Jan Jaros also, and not forgetting a couple of iffy Aussies Steve Widt/Craig Hyde

Ben Howe was a bit like Kemp and had plenty of talent but not always the right attitude and didn't have tip top machinery, me and a few mates used to sponsor him when he first got a place in the team, i remember at the time when a big thing was made of him being made a Jawa works rider, the kit he actually got was second hand most of it and not worth having.

It could well be that much these days, going back many yrs when Tim Woodward sponsored the Witches his money would cover the stadium rent for the season which was probably 20k-30k.

The top GP boys no doubt are on top money if the rumours from last season were correct and that Lambert was on 5k a meeting for Belle Vue, but it's the guaranteed bit i don't like about these deals, no riders gonna bust a gut if he gets paid the same if he scores 2 points or 12 points.

I'm sure it was mentioned b4 either on this thread or another one that Dudek was after summit like 6k a meeting guaranteed, whether that's true or not who knows.

Thought it was mentioned on another thread that Ash Morris may of retired, ain't seen Clegg or Kemp announced in any teams thus far.

Don't think Ryan Kinsley is fixed up with a team place for this coming season at the mo who rode at NL level the season just gone.

Tbf to Kemp he was unlucky at Sheffield, he was signed as a reserve but as the rest of the team struggled he moved up into the main body of the team way to early and then found it hard riding at number 2 thereafter which knocked his confidence somewhat.