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Is It Time To Re-introduce Tape Touching?
Vince replied to IainB's topic in Speedway News and Discussions
Never did anybody choose such an ill fitting user name! -
Next Friday sees the 4th round of the UK Dirt track Championships. Vintage, Thunderbike, Restricted and Pro classes are running Friday night with the Rookie class running on Saturday morning. Under lights last year the track held up really well and produced some great racing, especially in the pro class. Saturday also sees the very popular annual Dirt Quake event run by Sideburn magazine. An event you'll never forget with all sorts of riders on all sorts of bikes, ranging from sports bikes through scooters to choppers racing around a Speedway track. Some of the riders are very good, Guy Martin won last years chopper class, some are a little lacking in off road and racing experience to put it politely. If it's not too embarrassing to be seen with me after seeing me race come and say hello to No 95 on Friday night or ask any of the organisers where Vince is on Saturday.
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Is It Time To Re-introduce Tape Touching?
Vince replied to IainB's topic in Speedway News and Discussions
Oh if I'd known you'd spoken to a start marshall I would have realised how much more knowledge you have than I possibly could. I'll try again, once the start marshall has called them to the tapes the referee doesn't allow them to roll backwards. Not sure why that is so difficult to understand in theory or practice. Having raced motorcycles of various types on and off for 44 years and still going I have a reasonable understanding of clutches and their behaviour when in all sorts of condition. Considering how much time and money Speedway riders spend on clutches I have to say that in my opinion there is no reason for them to not sit still if they had to. You will at times have a clutch drag but that's a mechanical fault like any other so if you can't sit still it's a breakdown. Besides which in your haste to ridicule people you said that anybody who thought it possible to sit still on a race bike didn't have a clue, no mention of that only applying to a knackered clutch. -
Is It Time To Re-introduce Tape Touching?
Vince replied to IainB's topic in Speedway News and Discussions
I'm really sorry that we can't all have your superior knowledge and expertise but I assumed that by mentioning the ref as well it was blindingly obvious what I meant, however I will explain. The Start marshall calls the riders into the tapes and is strict about putting them in position. While he does this the ref (who is sat some distance away and therefore is able to watch all 4 riders)makes sure that nobody move backwards at any time. Hey presto!! we have 4 riders sat in position and unable to move backwards so problem solved. Now that I've enlightened you perhaps you could explain to me why a decent, properly adjusted clutch won't allow you to sit still at the start. For further education and enlightenment perhaps you recognise that sarcasm will generally be met with sarcasm. -
Is It Time To Re-introduce Tape Touching?
Vince replied to IainB's topic in Speedway News and Discussions
I'd hate to see tape touching re-introduced, one of the best things they ever did was get rid of it. Now at least you generally get four riders leaving the gate in a position to compete for the first corner. Generally it used to be two at best because two or three would get caught out. I'm with Robert Lee in the Start Marshalls can stop the problems completely with the help of a strong ref. The Marshall puts them in place and anybody moving backwards by even a fraction is disqualified. You wouldn't deprive the public of too many four man races once the riders realised they can't earn while sat in the pits! -
Is It Time To Re-introduce Tape Touching?
Vince replied to IainB's topic in Speedway News and Discussions
I have and still do and can sit as still as you like. -
For me Speedway is 4 blokes with big balls racing as hard as they know how. Personally I like individual meetings more than team racing but it doesn't really make a lot of difference if you just watch the 4 blokes tearing around. The negativity on here and places like it is largely self feeding in my opinion. When you read how much better it was in the old days forget about it, it's what they were saying at the first meeting I went to in about 1967 or 68. Like any sport there are good meetings, poor meetings and the rare superb meeting. The great meetings make all the poor meetings worth sitting through. Speedway today offers, in my opinion, the best racing it ever has. The standard of the riders is very high and few of them like to sit back and settle for what they have in a race. Get along to see a live meeting and the speed and danger will take your breath away. Finally one important thing to remember is that unlike the overpaid participants in some other sports these lads are largely paid by the point and not very well in the main. Injury is a near certainty during the season and they will carry with pain that would see the average man off work for weeks. Yet they are usually friendly and willing to mix with the fans. There are undoubtedly many faults within the sport and the rules, pretty much like any other sport. It is still a fantastic sport
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Has Speedway Reached/over-reached Its Top Speed?
Vince replied to Shale Searcher's topic in Speedway News and Discussions
I'd bet that there are far more accidents caused by engines that have been 'softened' picking up too much grip than there ever are by outright engine power. Very noticeable in the NL when you sometimes see inexperienced riders trying to use the same set up as top riders and struggling to even get the bike turned. Strange as it may seem a novice is generally safer with more power rather than less (too much wheelspin is safer than too much grip). Where I think modern bikes are more difficult is that they are very sensitive to set up because of their lighter flywheels and higher revs and the difference between a fast well set up bike and a complete pig to ride is narrower than ever before. My opinion is that the rev limiter could be the best thing ever by not only making service intervals longer but by making super light flywheels a bit less effective. A minimum stroke would help as well. -
Only met snazzy a couple of times and exchanged a few texts and emails but feel like I've lost a good friend. Smashing lass who wasn't afraid to speak her mind and loved her speedway. She'll be greatly missed
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I think Speedway in this country would be better with a top league only a little above the current PL standard with the 2nd division between current PL and NL and the NL at a level where heat leaders can compete with PL 2nd strings. Allow doubling up for British riders and have a draft system throughout and you have something that would be more sustainable on current crowd levels. You could then have test matches and individual meetings to give people the opportunity to see the stars of the sport and because of its rarity value they would presumably attract good crowds.
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Vardy is the worst ref I have seen in well over 40 years od Speedway. There was an incident at Weymouth where a rider had fallen right by the start line and the commentator ended up switching the red light on after he pointed this out and she still couldn't see it, very lucky somebody wasn't seriously hurt. One night at Stoke she sent the scrutineer around to measure the eco mats to the millimetre, fined a rider for having the wrong shade of yellow helmet cover but completely missed one rider punch another on bend 3 following a crash (probably a good thing as the riders were fine 2 minutes later and had she got involved it would no doubt have been like WW3!!) I think every single meeting I have ever seen her referee, and that's quite a few, she has messed up. The one good thing she does is make Ms Horley seem quite good in comparison!
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So you bloody should be :-) Dave Norris was brilliant as a co commentator I thought
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Why would you ban Hancock when he's just sold as many tickets in a few seconds of bad temper than his fantastic bike handling and set up skills probably have in a long career!! Like it or not incidents like this add to sport rather than detract from it, nobody was hurt, a number of people with no previous interest are looking at Speedway and if GH and NP have any sense they'll keep this grudge going at least as far as the public are concerned.
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I think that riders tend to give Hancock more room than most of their opponents for the simple reason that he generally does the same for them
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The move wasn't even a patch on what Sundstrom did twice last week and until refs punish riders for dangerous riding whether somebody ends up on the floor or not it will continue and very likely get worse. I thought NP left no room and was fully at fault, he does pull this type of move too often but he's the type of rider that brings in a crowd. My guess would be that he's not putting people on the floor deliberately but he puts himself into position with no regard as to how it will affect the other riders. The real shock was seeing him at a training school helping kids where he was a thoroughly nice bloke for whom nothing was too much trouble. Greg Hancock!!!! That is right at the top of my list of things I never thought I would see but what the hell it was exciting, nobody got hurt and it will be talked about for far longer than any other race this year. I'm a firm believer that Speedway needs some more of this sort of stuff, look back at posts about memorable Speedway events and there are usually far more about such incidents than about great races. Speedway is a hard and aggressive sport and it shouldn't be a surprise that riders have a tear up now and again and I think all that aggression is far more likely to attract people to the sport than the family image. Sell it rather than stop it would be my suggestion. The only stipulation I would make is that riders lashing out at other riders is only lightly, if at all, punished. However anybody else, mechanic, father, pit crew whoever who hits a rider is banned from the pits/ trackside for life. Far too many people running into little scuffles and heroically throwing punches at the back of heads and that is when somebody will get hurt. If somebody is big enough to ride Speedway they are big enough to fight their own battles.
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Who Was Best, Louis Senior Or Louis Junior?
Vince replied to Terry's topic in Speedway News and Discussions
Strangely I think they decide your nationality based on things like relatives and country of birth rather than who your mates are!! -
I think if riders had to ride in the strict position dictated by their average i.e highest average at No1 lowest at No7 and points were then awarded by their number minus the number of the opposition rider that they beat. So if the No7 beats the opposition No1 he gets 6 points and so on. Obviously a bit of a hitch for the highest average riders who will score -6 points for beating the opposition No7 but he will get his reward when he becomes the No7 with a -37 average. Referees like Ms Vardy or Mr Robinson can be relied on to use their immense skills to instantly spot anybody not trying to win so this would lead to a system that would give an instant guide to the riders abilities even for the newcomer to the sport.
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But how many riders will give the sport away if they don't have any idea of how many meetings they are going to get?
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I like Barrycuda, he makes me feel like a genius
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I'm biased because I know Lewis and like him although I've not seen him for quite some time and have no idea of the reasons behind his current actions. What I can say for fact is that when you race motorcycles of any sort and it's going well injuries are the furthest thing from your mind and it's great fun. However there are days, especially after a lay off when everything is difficult and you feel like an accident waiting to happen. You might have spent days or weeks really looking forward to racing then when it gets there you can't do anything right and just feel like you could be hurting yourself or somebody else at any moment. Mostly these things are shrugged off and the next time out it's all back to being fun. However if you went out and in addition to feeling like you were a danger to yourself you started remembering your mates and others who were killed and badly injured I would say that is the time to stop. Could be that in time you'll find a way past it or maybe not but to continue racing would be stupid. No idea if that's the reason but it could explain why he could race for a long time before he was so badly affected. But much easier to criticise the bloke on guess work than look for a reason.
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Short Track At Mcn Festival
Vince replied to Vince's topic in Grasstrack, Sidecar, Short Track and Cycle Speedway
On second thoughts you won't want to come and say hi if I ride like I did yesterday!!! -
There is a full programme of British Championship Short track racing at the Motor Cycle News festival at Peterborough this weekend (16th /17th May). The meeting is spread out during the day with different classes running different times, the pro and restricted class being last of the day at 4.30. Additionally there are some Transatlantic Trophy races featuring Road Race GP legend Kevin Schwantz as well as 'On any Sunday' flattrack star Dave Aldana against a British team. If anybody is there I'm No 95 so come and say hi.
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Are These The Best 2 Races You Will See In 2015 ?
Vince replied to racers and royals's topic in Speedway News and Discussions
Either one of those riders would have to be suicidal to put themselves on the outside of the other during that!!! -
Pete Seaton is trying to get F2 Speedway up and running and has so far used Honda, Kawasaki, BMW and now the WK engines that I know of. It isn't intended to replace professional Speedway but be a low cost, low maintenance entry into the sport http://f2speedway.com/ The old Godden engine was a cracker so lets hope this one is as good.
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Rye House have cancelled practice tomorrow so anybody know of anywhere else running in the Midlands or South? Monday would be OK if nothing Sunday