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Ipswich 2014
cowboy cookie returns? replied to cowboy cookie returns?'s topic in SGB Championship League Speedway
The main thing is for us to hang on to Tungate & Heeps. -
Coventry Bees 2014
cowboy cookie returns? replied to Woz01's topic in SGB Premiership Speedway League
I'd have Nicholls at Ipswich next season......... & I think it may just happen ;-) -
Just for fun as the league format seems to be up in the air...............................
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Rule Changes For 2014
cowboy cookie returns? replied to uk_martin's topic in Speedway News and Discussions
Throw the rule book away!! -
Elite League 2014
cowboy cookie returns? replied to Irk Deflector's topic in SGB Premiership Speedway League
Matt Ford & the others would not be a problem if you have a fully independent speedway control board running the sport failing that allow the acu to run it could do no worse. The sport is rotten end of! -
Dennis Sigalos on 3 pt ave as has not ridden for a while Nop really Tungate & Heeps for me no idea of the other 5 at the mo
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Wait until next year when the new home straight stand is finished at Foxhall.
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Just a thought on the ipswich team for one big league next season Nicholls Barker Tungate Heeps Manzares Ellis & Morten
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Rule Changes For 2014
cowboy cookie returns? replied to uk_martin's topic in Speedway News and Discussions
Simple really. Old tac sub rule 6 points or more down after 6 heats then you can use it any rider can take one tac sub ride. The team manager can programme his top 5 in any order he likes those two changes would mean that the team manager would have to manage & get the best out of his team like the old days. -
Speedway On Eurosport
cowboy cookie returns? replied to michaelcroucher's topic in Speedway News and Discussions
Why all the moaning gp speedway is still on tv & being seen by many more armchair viewers I would suggest as eurosport is part of most sky/virgin tv packages. The channel is also the home of motorbikes & lets not forget that they seemed to obtain the rights late on. It would be nice to see Scottie Nicholls involved next year thou. If they also get Polish league that would be good. One last thing are they showing the world cup? -
[quote name='gustix' timestamp='1372454431' I think further back than that - how about the period from the mid-1950s onwards until Mike Parker formed the Provincial League at the start of the 1960s? Wasn't the Shawcross Inquiry into the adverse situation existing between the National League and Provincial League rather than what was wrong with speedway? But that's an off-the-top-of-the-head memory from an oldie - I could be wrong. Not sure either i'm too young however were the British & National leagues not formed off the back of it & the expansion of tracks & the mini crowd boom of the 70's & 80's?
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If the sport offered value for money & had respect from outside I think things might change remember the crowds were dropping while times were good, The big problem is not what has happen over the past couple of years the problems go way back to the 1980's.
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Looks like Speedway Star could well be an interesting read next week. I just hope that the powers that be take onboard now that things need to change & start the planning for that to happen from next season. Is it time for another Lord Shawcross type of thing as was done in the 1960's?
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It would be interesting to hear Mr Rising from the speedway star thinks about all this & if he thinks the sport will sort its self out in this country.
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The post about Speedway in Poland being 'cool' I would think is spot on. I'm not sure if the racing is any better or worse than the Uk but the sport has a high regard & is respected. That Is the main problem we have in this country the sport is not respected by those outside the sport & it would appear by some of those who run it. Change is needed.
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Well it would appear the cost to watch top flight speedway in Poland is about £12 & seems to be a much better product than over here.
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£17 would not be too much if the sport was run in a better way & your team of 7 were most of the time on track however to turn up & have 2 or 3 missing is just bonkers! As for the reason I don't go much is down to the rules the final straw being when the el changed the playoffs from the top 6 to top 4 half way through the season. To survive the sport first of all needs to scrap the rule book & start again & I would run league matches over 16 heats & have a junior league programme with matches over 6 heats for the second half. In terms of guests these would be banned & cover would come from r/r & your junior team members just like the old nl days. In terms of how the leagues would work I think a 18-20 team top league & the rest would form a 2nd division. This would have a fixed for ever points limit of 48 if using 16 heats or 45 if using 15 as this is what is required to draw a match. Having a big league would mean no gp riders but this is about rebuilding the sport from ground up in the uk. On the otherhand if you want to keep the el then you still need to re write the rule book go to a home match every 2 weeks & get someone like monster on board to fund it on a long term deal while also having a longterm eurosport or free to air tv deal to get it out in the public domain as muh a possible. Am I crazy i'll let you decide! But I am someone who won't go week in week out in its present form. £17 would not be too much if the sport was run in a better way & your team of 7 were most of the time on track however to turn up & have 2 or 3 missing is just bonkers! As for the reason I don't go much is down to the rules the final straw being when the el changed the playoffs from the top 6 to top 4 half way through the season. To survive the sport first of all needs to scrap the rule book & start again & I would run league matches over 16 heats & have a junior league programme with matches over 6 heats for the second half. In terms of guests these would be banned & cover would come from r/r & your junior team members just like the old nl days. In terms of how the leagues would work I think a 18-20 team top league & the rest would form a 2nd division. This would have a fixed for ever points limit of 48 if using 16 heats or 45 if using 15 as this is what is required to draw a match. Having a big league would mean no gp riders but this is about rebuilding the sport from ground up in the uk. On the otherhand if you want to keep the el then you still need to re write the rule book go to a home match every 2 weeks & get someone like monster on board to fund it on a long term deal while also having a longterm eurosport or free to air tv deal to get it out in the public domain as muh a possible. Am I crazy i'll let you decide! But I am someone who won't go week in week out in its present form.
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I work with some Poles & bearing in mind the Polish riders we have had at Ipswich over the years they would love to go but its too expensive! The problem is when the sport in the country should have been developed in the 70's & 80's is wasn't so we then come up with the years late 80's to now with cost cutting crap rules & nothing done to try & attract outside support. Maybe now is the time to start over in the uk. I have got back in to Speedway this year through the gp on Euro sport & I think a lot more people will see it now its on Euro sport. The gp's this year have been good & tonights has been fantastic & shows what a great sport it can be. We in the uk need to start rebuilding on the back of this move from Sky as it maybe the last chance we get. As I said I have got back into it I watch the gp's buy the speedway star but do I go up to Foxhall every week? The answer is no & that is down to the micky mouse way the sport in this country is run nothing to do with cost to get in or which league the Witches are in. I think I am not alone!!!!!!!!!!!
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Take a look at Eurosport tonight. Speedway from a stadium built for speedway & what a fab arena it is. Shows what can happen if the sport is run as a sport & not a micky mouse side show as it has been in the UK for years.
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The question is would the sports 'big names' coming back to UK speedway put bums on seats? They are big names to the current followers but outside of the support base would the non speedway follower know any different? The aim has to be to make the sport more affordable & better to watch as well as giving value for money. I was a regular at Foxhall for 20 odd years but have only been a dozen times in the last few seasons & that has nothing to do with the drop to the PL. At the end of the day £15 is too much buck for what you get. On the other hand if the big names are the answer then the only way to get them back is too have a shorter season & pay the money after all that what the IPL have done in Cricket paying big bucks for a 2 month season. But to do that I guess a call to monster would be required!
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How Many Heats In A League Meeting ?
cowboy cookie returns? replied to rusky's topic in Speedway News and Discussions
More dirt on the tracks passing was easier. There you go 8 little words that sums it all up.