StevePark

And in 1995 & 1996.

Does it really matter what the weather is like in Plymouth (seeing as it's only Wednesday)? The meeting is on Friday at 7.15pm! We are at Somerset next Friday, so it won't be next Friday.

They don't like it up 'em. And before anybody says it I'm not a 'Stupid Boy.'

No. Heats 9, 10, 11 and 12.

Something else we agree on

Usually track work.

The fact a rider had four rides in a row may have had something to do with it?

That was his first blast for months! What do you expect?

I make that a 10 man team!!!! It's all 'Fantasy League' stuff, anyway!

That was, kind of, my point! At least we agree on something (not making a profit)! It wasn't meant to be an attack on the EL (but as this is a SKY thread, most of the money goes to the EL) as there are, no doubt, a few PL clubs in 'a pickle' financially. If that is through overpaying the riders, then it's their own daft fault (which was the whole point of my original post/argument).

And turning that 'on it's head' it could also mean the fans aren't coming through the door as they did last year (or indeed previous weeks) which eats into the 'imaginary' profits that you seem to believe speedway has got. That budget (going back to the thread) being the EL cubs relying on SKY money and spending it before they've got it for 2014. Clever? I think not. I also did not say all clubs are making a loss. What I said was they weren't making a profit. There is a big difference.

Where do I say that?

Says who? There's a whole lot more than riders wages eating into the profits of PL (or any League's) clubs. I'd be amazed if any club from any League is making a profit.

Only if the PL clubs were daft enough to pay at the higher level.

If Newcastle get all 4 league points they will finish second in the league.

So why ride in the meeting? He was obviously putting himself in the shop window, so I wouldn't give up hope just yet.

Cheers for that. So I guess Kus and Summers were 'done' under (e), as they moved forward the ref couldn't press the button. Of course he could have, but chose not to! Had he done so, he could have warned the said riders for moving, but chose to exclude them. The only thing is of course, if Lindgren did touch the tapes (as I thopught he did) he should have gone as well, as Tully had been, a few heats earlier!

I think (but don't have a rulebook to hand) that it is down to the referees descretion. I would think, those who got flyers were moving/rolling as the tapes went up. The others moved before the tapes went up and other riders subsequently touched the tapes, therefore they are deemed (in the referees opinion) to have 'delayed the start.' Hopefully someone will have a rulebook and tell us if I am correct or not!

Yes Lambert would come in on a 3. But if you think He'll join Newcastle, you are living in 'Cloud Cuckoo Land'! I wouldn't touch Charles Wright with a bargepole. I can't remember him having a decent meeting round Brough.

Summers replaced by Wilko. Kus went off 15. First instance, Summers moved and Tully touched the tapes. Tully Ex for that and Summers for delaying the start, replaced by Wilko. Second instance, Kus moved and Lindgren appeared to touch the tapes (others may be able to confirm this). Kus Ex for delaying start, no punishment for Lindgren. After being 9-3 up after 2 heats, I'm afraid we want our backsides kicking for not getting anything out of the meeting. When Kus went off 15mtrs Not only did he catch up, he actually overtook somebody. I don't think I've seen Kus overtake anybody before!!

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To have any chance of winning the group, Newcastle, quite simply, have to get something out of this match. I Doubt we will get anything at Somerset and we have to hope we do better than the Rebels at STMP. It may all come down to race points difference to determine the group winners.

I believe he has stated in the past he'd love to ride for Newcastle, but being a Sunday track prevents that happening.

........ When he can be bothered. Unfortunatley he is amongst a growing number of riders, who, when they miss the gate, either don't have the ba**s to try and overtake, or don't have the know-how how to. If I were the Redcar promotion, I wouldn't have had Kus back this season, but it's all down to choice, I guess, and they chose to bring him back. On the Ostergaard discussion, I'd have him in my team. I like him as a rider and, from when I've seen him ride, he get you points when needed.

The forecast for Sunday (four days away) is fine.