GeneralMelchett

I once had to make a decision on employing someone who had a spent conviction - he was upfront about it, as required, very concerned that we might withdraw the offer of a job, we employed him. Its down to the individuals concerned I suppose.

I agree in many ways but as ever context is key on everything! Anyway we are going round the houses here so probably just have to disagree. Lets hope if he does get a chance to ride somewhere he embraces it and makes something of it.

well the connection was that you can go on and make something of yourself despite a crimninal past! It maybe a tough long hard road but it can be done!. I wasn't connecting it to sport so perhaos a abetter example might have been used but Martindale was one of the few i could think of!

Yes I am aware of what out licence means etc - Given his breaches I do not think they are enough to write him off as a lost cause (just yet!) it’s worth noting that his recall still didn’t see him serve the full remainder of his sentence / otherwise he’d be in til 2027! Like I said had he gone out robbing the elderly again I’d be happy to say enough get back inside and don’t come out! what he did was truly despicable particularly targeting elderly and vulnerable and I had also recall having chats with people at Owlerton about him with Sheffield fans at the time they were crowing about how good he was in the 2016 season and I said Robert Lambert was a better long term prospect after their match V Newcastle due to him being a wrong un etc -I even have said on here where is Garrity now as an example of how he’d fallen and Lambert had gone in to great things. I know he is a low life and maybe in just 5 years you will be on here saying ‘I told you so’ but that doesn’t mean he doesn’t get one chance to try and get his life on track! You should read up on a guy called David Martindale.

I haven't been to Glasgow since 2022, but think its old Arthur Wellesley (Duke of Wellington) similarly in Edinburgh ( a city I visit regularly as my lad lives there) the statue of Adam Smith in front of St Giles Cathedral always used to have a traffic cone on its head - the cone was actually removed for the Queens lying in state etc in 2022. I think its a mix of student and local humour!

Well I am not really convinced it does for me, as his recall suggested (assuming everything posted previously on this thread was either true and posted in good faith) that it was either for a punch up whilst out on licence or he was beaten up by his old cronies whilst out. Had he say gone out robbing the elderly again i might be inclined to say yes and that there shoud be no 2nd chance. re your 2nd point agreed we should always be preared to say to someones face what we either say behind their back or when they are not present.

I read his interview in the star, he says is is truly sorry for what he did, he also says that if he could apologise to the people directly he would, this suggets maybe it isn't possible for whatever reason.

This is an attempt at vicarious negligence or something similar, the fact is his contract would have been between himself and his club(s) so I am not convinced British Speedway would be the one to have to deal with it, unless they knew that multiple riders had issues and decided to do nothing about it. Of course we have no idea if he was offered / given help or not.

To my mind Shawn was allowed one shot at redemption and ****** it up - Garrity has to have that chance!

It isn't per se but at the same time if you have a 'trade' and this is one of thw ways you can earn a living then if someone is wanting to take a chance on him then he should be allowed to! Having locked him up and he served his time he needs to do something with the rest of his life, given he would have to declare his conviction etc many companies wouldn't take a chnace on him (entirely their choice by the way) - if he was prepared to retrain then companies such as Timpsons might well give him a go! Frankly as a tax payer I want him out there paying something back into the system rather than us footing he bill for him for the next 40 years!

Agreed you either believe in the concept of a shot at redemption or you don't. What Garrity should do is agree to be regulary voluntarily tested if he resumes his career to ensure he remains clean - even out of season. Then if someone takes a punt on him then good for them and he has his chance. If he blows it then no more chances after that. Having seen him ride he certaonly had talent. It does remind me that in a conversation with Sheffield fans eons ago at Olwerton (well 2016) he was described as a 'bad lad' and Speedway was his only hope - so he would be wise if he gets a 2nd chnace to take it and not mess it up!

Bit like the 2026 Premiership then - I'll get me coat! Regardless good to him back and confirmed as round Owlerton he is certainly great to watch - at least I will get to see Speedway in Sheffield in 2026 just need Ipswich to confirm now!

Thats life and in particular business in general - there is a similar process ongoing at SWFC - of course the concept of proof of funds is important (its 50m in the case of Wednesday) as is the fit and peroper persons test, I wonder if they have that in Speedway! (it hasn't made much difference in football)

I seem to be able to find a copy in two of my nearby tescos so I usually buy it there when I remember, I wouldn't subscribe now - we often get out post for the week seemingly delivered in one go on a friday or a saturday!

The lads looked after himself and you can't blame him - huge talen and i have enjoyed watching his progress at Foxhall