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Football is and always has been very much subject to work permit regulations. Back in 2001 I was helping on working on the permit applications for two young T&T players Colin Samuel and Devon Mitchell. The rules were very strictly adhered to and it took us two years to get Colin Samuels a work permit for Falkirk - after he had made 6 international appearances and scoring a handful of goals. Devon I seem to recall had a couple of caps but against 'minor' opposition and we never ever got a permit for him as he didnt have enough international caps to show that he would bring something extra to the game in the UK. I think Dundee Utd tried a couple of years later for Devon but again it was rejected. incidentally when Colin Samuel moved from one club to another the new club had to get a fresh work permit for him! So its definitely not anything particularly new! So there you go - its definitely something that has been happening in sport for a long time and its definitely not something football is exempt from or set up just to have a go at speedway (As an aside, i took both lads to the speedway at Glasgow when they were over on a visitors visa - they didnt like it lol)

Its frightening how many people actually seem to believe, despite everything thats been documented and said, that its all a ploy to have a go at speedway

one shade of grey or 50?

...and I said almost exactly the same a few pages back (minus the grammer school bit lol) Tbh Grachan I doubt if some will listen to you either! lol

apparently though screm the criteria is finishing 2014 with an average above 7. Not sure if they will apply for a previous year except in exceptional circumstances and even then given the hassles this season Im not convinced the authorities will want to do anything other than stick to the letter of the law - and indeed why should they? They will argue, understandably, Kozza should have ridden and finished top four in a state championship. It's unfortunate that with all the issues known as long ago as September that no one tipped him the nod on that but IF the authorities say 'no' we dont really have a leg to stand on

I would assume that as its the rolling averages that are used for team building its the rolling averages that will count for visa requirements - does anyone know?

Has he been reported SL? I didnt know that but frankly he should have been pulled up for it. the riders were warned about watching their conduct on social media and that anything that was felt to damage speedways repoutation would be acted on - surely that applies to team managers as well. I knew the comment had been made, I saw it at the time, but I didnt realise that he had then retweeted it himself. That says volumes to me. As does the fact he later posted that to call someone that was 'banter' and seems to confirm by that tweet that he finds it acceptable for someone in his position

Harness has already admitted that the clubs were visited before the end of last season and knew around September there would be issues and visas would all be revisited. Septembert was before the end of last season. Ergo that's how they would have known.

Your last sentence answers your first one!

actually being a pedant although you are right in saying it should be 'a' holiday you are wrong in your reasoning as the use of the word 'an' is supposed to be before a vowel SOUND, not just the vowel. see! I can be weird too actually jenga being a pedant although you are right in saying it should be 'a' holiday you are wrong in your reasoning as the use of the word 'an' is supposed to be before a vowel SOUND, not just the vowel. see! I can be weird too

think that might be a whoosh Ned Kelly

Easily!

I seem to remember a young Aussie getting disciplined and a ban for a lot less on social media....... do the rules not also apply to management and promoters? Won't help Poole much if they are also missing their TM next season!

Isn't that what started the whole flamin saga?

Well thats surely Mr Holder gone down in a number of people's estimation. he seems to be saying its okay to race at those speeds when not considered 100% fit by the rules to do so as long as you are his mate? Shame on you Chris Holder, the same rules should apply to all.

It will depend what is termed the 'highest level' In football it covers all four English divisions, its likely in speedway it covers the top two with the NL termed a 'development' league and the Youth and development leagues deemd the lower part of the pyramid (no disrespect meant by terms, just trying to equate to English football as I believe PN to be English)

I thought it was the sponsors licences that were the problem, not the criteria. My understanding was the sponsors licences were withdrawn and clubs are required to have a responsible person attend and pass the workshops/training before the licenses could be re-instated. Is that no longer the case?

Tourettes, I was just being cheeky and getting the old spurtle out Its a while since we had the Bellego argument

Paulco shall now officially be known as the master of the understatement! lol

Isnt he a Glasgow Assett..... (~~~>>>runs off and hides!)

the thing you get with Ben though is pure entertainment - he should get people through the gates. he rides on the edge and occasionally over it, you just never know what he can pull out of the bag

you've obviously never stayed back in the bar on a sunny Sunday evening at Ashfield Tourettes - thats when the nightmare becomes a reality

especially when you have already publicly admitted your guilt!

Speaking for myself I think I would prefer the sumo suits too!

you disappoint me baba - at least make it sumo wrestling in suits and mud bath....